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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)
Number 669 Mar 9th, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2200+
Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
To get in touch with either editor/pilot our email address is
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. Need to know.
From Employee Communications -
What You Should Know About Standby Seating Arrangements. All active and
retired employees, partners, parents and other airline staff travelling on
space available passes ending with the Y10 pass status including commuters
in uniform must be boarded in Hospitality class when seats are available.
Seating in Executive class is only possible if Hospitality is completely
full. Employees holding J10 pass status are entitled to Executive class,
regardless of the load in Hospitality. Your co-operation is appreciated.
Need A New Passport? More Forms To Fill In. Effective today, the Passport
Office is introducing a new application form for adults and children
applying for a passport in Canada. In addition to previously required
information, applicants must provide the names of two references, and
residential and employment history going back two years
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. Paul Bolan sends this message -
Here is the complete paragraph concerning tobaco importation as there was an
important ommission in newsletter nbr 667
"However, as of October 1, 2001, if you include cigarettes, tobacco sticks, or
loose tobacco in your personal exemption allowance, only a partial exemption
will apply. You will have to pay a minimum duty on these products unless they
are marked "CANADA-DUTY PAID · DROIT ACQUITTÉ". You will find Canadian-made
products sold at a duty-free shop marked this way. You can speed up your
clearance by having your tobacco products available for inspection when you
arrive."
Thus if you buy at a Canadian duty free shop it will be as before
Faithful reader
Paul Bolan
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. From the YYZNEWS issued by Brian Dunn -
On February 28th Tango by Air Canada announced nine new routes for service
commencing June 17th. They include London ON-Halifax, London-Calgary/Vancouver,
Windsor-Ottawa/Halifax, Windsor-
Winnipeg/Calgary, Saskatoon-Vancouver, and Regina-Vancouver. By summer 2002 the
Tango fleet will include eight Airbus 320 aircraft in a 159-seat configuration
and thirteen Boeing 737-200 aircraft in a 120-seat all-economy configuration
for a total of 21 aircraft.
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. Still with the DC-9.
Fred Spriggs writes -
My recollection of that hanger fire is that the hanger was being
operated by the R,C.A.F. In fact, it seems to me that they actually
lost at least two fairly large military Aircraft in the fire. - C119
Packets (?). Also I think the hanger was called nr.6. The other thing I
would like to mention is since I started working at T.C.A. at the end
of March 1954 and can remember seeing that hanger for some time, I
would venture to say that the fire must have occurred in 1955-6. One
other point I remember vividly is I didn't hang around to get permission
to run over to help clear out the furnishings from hanger #5 (after
all, it's roof was already burning). In the process, I lost a very nice
scarf. When all was under control and returned to the office, my
supervisor was upset at those of us who had left the office without his
permission. Needless to say, I never submitted a claim for the scarf.
Regards,
Fred Spriggs
and another fire story -
Bob Lunan's graphic account of the No 6 Hangar fire Netletter 668 stirs
another somewhat similar memory. Dorval again I'm afraid. I cannot recall the
exact year, all I know is that because of the festivities brewing up with the
immediate approach of the oncoming new year the usual dispensations with
protocol took hold
As with every business the run up to every year's end means that certain
practices need to be followed in Office routine. The snail mail of those days
requiring the annual opening of a drawer to post off the highly necessary
insurance premium to cover next year's insurance protection starting of course
at 00.01 precisely.
Out at field stations too people there also have equally awesome
responsibilities on such festive occasions. While senior Staff are already on
vacation the acting personnel have stand-in duties. But when the cat's away the
mice will play, be it in field station or Office
On flight maintenance ramp duty that night just as the threshold ran
through, guess what? Yes, a fire. Two of us were (we think) the first to spot
that the ramp paint store was well afire. With one Viscount on the gate too
close for comfort actually cranked up gradually using onboard battery power
alone! The fire began to spread rapidly taking the Maintenance shack with it.
At close quarters it became rather dangerous, not from the fire itself but from
toolboxes and radio units being thrown out of closed windows.
Meanwhile the airport fire appliances arrived but with only 2 men per machine.
Need I say happy men. With one manning the appliance and one hauling the hose
forward in snow ... only to be knocked off his feet repeatedly ... With your's
truly edging up from behind to act as a steady and at times re-directing the
jet, oh boy.
As the fire gained in strength noticed our 3 aircraft tow tractors taking fire.
As I ran towards the nearest tractor noticed my exit route blocked by the
firehose. Asked the (same) fireman was it OK for me to drive over his line but
got an emphatic no. Minutes later the Chief Mechanic arrives shouting "Eddy
what are you thinking about get those tractors out" Yelled back about the
firehose, with the Chief shouting "My responsibility" Well I was lucky to be
taking the nearest unit away and clear. Someone got the second tractor out. The
third, its steering wheel dripping plastic by now approached by a young George
Everard (always wore black gloves) yelling "keep a spray on me" doing the
needful.
Next day a whole inquiry mostly centred on "What time was it that you first
spotted the fire? Meaning (AM or PM). So for days after, with our toolboxes all
impounded by the Insurance Company we mechanics operated with pencils only
until the Snap-on Representative evaluated each and every tool for replacement.
Another factor arose of course the who or what that triggered the fire. It
wasn't until quite some time later that it struck me that ........ myself,
being from Belfast!!! Not guilty, only an onlooker, with the young George
Everard truly deserving a medal. Ted Tierney.
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. From our chief pilot Vesta -
TORONTO AIRPORT GETS DEFIBRILLATOR UNITS
Toronto's Pearson International Airport now has machines that can
deliver a lifesaving pulse of electrical current to treat a person
having a heart attack.
"From: the March Online Horizons edition.
Mr. Alex Munro passed away Dec 23,2001.
Remembered by me from our coworking days.
In the 50's at Telecommunications in Transat Dorval Airport.
I was in tely ops and he was in Radio, later in the 70's we worked together
again at 151 Front St Toronto. Bon Voyage."
AIR CANADA RECALLS HUNDREDS OF WORKERS AS TRAFFIC REBOUNDS
Air Canada is rehiring hundreds of laid off flight attendants and ground
workers as the airline responds to a stronger-than-expected rebound in
passenger traffic.
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. From Wyc & Ruby Livingston" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. >
We would be interested in exchanging our home on Saltspring for a
similar place in the Okanagan (preferably near a lake and Kelowna) but we
are open to other OK places. There is one "catch" - we would be going with
our daughter and her husband and 8 year old daughter plus a miniature
dachshund (both very well behaved!). Maybe there is someone who would like
to spend a week on Saltspring around the first or second week of August???
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. Terry's travel tips.
Carnival Super Special - Alaska - $280
Alaska on Carnival Cruises new Spirit:
May 22 - 7 nights from Vancouver to Anchorage, or
May 29 - 7 nights Anchorage to Vancouver
(these dates only)
$280 (open to friends on own)
upgrades are available
OR: take it both ways - that is what I do.
port & taxes $249.24/$247.49
Usual terms & conditions apply,
including these are all per person, port
charges & taxes extra
Prices are NOT guaranteed to last, and can
and do change (upward) fast and without
notice. However, your price is guaranteed
once you book.
JAMES F. C. ROSE - YOUR Cruise Expert
information: (204) 889-3885
fax: (204) 889-3885
reservations: (204) 889-3885 & (800) 414-8091
Still having problems with my '800' number,
thus please try my '204' number.
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)
Number 669 Mar 9th, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2200+
Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
To get in touch with either editor/pilot our email address is
=================================================================
. Need to know.
From Employee Communications -
What You Should Know About Standby Seating Arrangements. All active and
retired employees, partners, parents and other airline staff travelling on
space available passes ending with the Y10 pass status including commuters
in uniform must be boarded in Hospitality class when seats are available.
Seating in Executive class is only possible if Hospitality is completely
full. Employees holding J10 pass status are entitled to Executive class,
regardless of the load in Hospitality. Your co-operation is appreciated.
Need A New Passport? More Forms To Fill In. Effective today, the Passport
Office is introducing a new application form for adults and children
applying for a passport in Canada. In addition to previously required
information, applicants must provide the names of two references, and
residential and employment history going back two years
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. Paul Bolan sends this message -
Here is the complete paragraph concerning tobaco importation as there was an
important ommission in newsletter nbr 667
"However, as of October 1, 2001, if you include cigarettes, tobacco sticks, or
loose tobacco in your personal exemption allowance, only a partial exemption
will apply. You will have to pay a minimum duty on these products unless they
are marked "CANADA-DUTY PAID · DROIT ACQUITTÉ". You will find Canadian-made
products sold at a duty-free shop marked this way. You can speed up your
clearance by having your tobacco products available for inspection when you
arrive."
Thus if you buy at a Canadian duty free shop it will be as before
Faithful reader
Paul Bolan
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" ' "
. From the YYZNEWS issued by Brian Dunn -
On February 28th Tango by Air Canada announced nine new routes for service
commencing June 17th. They include London ON-Halifax, London-Calgary/Vancouver,
Windsor-Ottawa/Halifax, Windsor-
Winnipeg/Calgary, Saskatoon-Vancouver, and Regina-Vancouver. By summer 2002 the
Tango fleet will include eight Airbus 320 aircraft in a 159-seat configuration
and thirteen Boeing 737-200 aircraft in a 120-seat all-economy configuration
for a total of 21 aircraft.
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. Still with the DC-9.
Fred Spriggs writes -
My recollection of that hanger fire is that the hanger was being
operated by the R,C.A.F. In fact, it seems to me that they actually
lost at least two fairly large military Aircraft in the fire. - C119
Packets (?). Also I think the hanger was called nr.6. The other thing I
would like to mention is since I started working at T.C.A. at the end
of March 1954 and can remember seeing that hanger for some time, I
would venture to say that the fire must have occurred in 1955-6. One
other point I remember vividly is I didn't hang around to get permission
to run over to help clear out the furnishings from hanger #5 (after
all, it's roof was already burning). In the process, I lost a very nice
scarf. When all was under control and returned to the office, my
supervisor was upset at those of us who had left the office without his
permission. Needless to say, I never submitted a claim for the scarf.
Regards,
Fred Spriggs
and another fire story -
Bob Lunan's graphic account of the No 6 Hangar fire Netletter 668 stirs
another somewhat similar memory. Dorval again I'm afraid. I cannot recall the
exact year, all I know is that because of the festivities brewing up with the
immediate approach of the oncoming new year the usual dispensations with
protocol took hold
As with every business the run up to every year's end means that certain
practices need to be followed in Office routine. The snail mail of those days
requiring the annual opening of a drawer to post off the highly necessary
insurance premium to cover next year's insurance protection starting of course
at 00.01 precisely.
Out at field stations too people there also have equally awesome
responsibilities on such festive occasions. While senior Staff are already on
vacation the acting personnel have stand-in duties. But when the cat's away the
mice will play, be it in field station or Office
On flight maintenance ramp duty that night just as the threshold ran
through, guess what? Yes, a fire. Two of us were (we think) the first to spot
that the ramp paint store was well afire. With one Viscount on the gate too
close for comfort actually cranked up gradually using onboard battery power
alone! The fire began to spread rapidly taking the Maintenance shack with it.
At close quarters it became rather dangerous, not from the fire itself but from
toolboxes and radio units being thrown out of closed windows.
Meanwhile the airport fire appliances arrived but with only 2 men per machine.
Need I say happy men. With one manning the appliance and one hauling the hose
forward in snow ... only to be knocked off his feet repeatedly ... With your's
truly edging up from behind to act as a steady and at times re-directing the
jet, oh boy.
As the fire gained in strength noticed our 3 aircraft tow tractors taking fire.
As I ran towards the nearest tractor noticed my exit route blocked by the
firehose. Asked the (same) fireman was it OK for me to drive over his line but
got an emphatic no. Minutes later the Chief Mechanic arrives shouting "Eddy
what are you thinking about get those tractors out" Yelled back about the
firehose, with the Chief shouting "My responsibility" Well I was lucky to be
taking the nearest unit away and clear. Someone got the second tractor out. The
third, its steering wheel dripping plastic by now approached by a young George
Everard (always wore black gloves) yelling "keep a spray on me" doing the
needful.
Next day a whole inquiry mostly centred on "What time was it that you first
spotted the fire? Meaning (AM or PM). So for days after, with our toolboxes all
impounded by the Insurance Company we mechanics operated with pencils only
until the Snap-on Representative evaluated each and every tool for replacement.
Another factor arose of course the who or what that triggered the fire. It
wasn't until quite some time later that it struck me that ........ myself,
being from Belfast!!! Not guilty, only an onlooker, with the young George
Everard truly deserving a medal. Ted Tierney.
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" ' "
. From our chief pilot Vesta -
TORONTO AIRPORT GETS DEFIBRILLATOR UNITS
Toronto's Pearson International Airport now has machines that can
deliver a lifesaving pulse of electrical current to treat a person
having a heart attack.
"From: the March Online Horizons edition.
Mr. Alex Munro passed away Dec 23,2001.
Remembered by me from our coworking days.
In the 50's at Telecommunications in Transat Dorval Airport.
I was in tely ops and he was in Radio, later in the 70's we worked together
again at 151 Front St Toronto. Bon Voyage."
AIR CANADA RECALLS HUNDREDS OF WORKERS AS TRAFFIC REBOUNDS
Air Canada is rehiring hundreds of laid off flight attendants and ground
workers as the airline responds to a stronger-than-expected rebound in
passenger traffic.
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" ' "
. From Wyc & Ruby Livingston" <
We would be interested in exchanging our home on Saltspring for a
similar place in the Okanagan (preferably near a lake and Kelowna) but we
are open to other OK places. There is one "catch" - we would be going with
our daughter and her husband and 8 year old daughter plus a miniature
dachshund (both very well behaved!). Maybe there is someone who would like
to spend a week on Saltspring around the first or second week of August???
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" ' "
. Terry's travel tips.
Carnival Super Special - Alaska - $280
Alaska on Carnival Cruises new Spirit:
May 22 - 7 nights from Vancouver to Anchorage, or
May 29 - 7 nights Anchorage to Vancouver
(these dates only)
$280 (open to friends on own)
upgrades are available
OR: take it both ways - that is what I do.
port & taxes $249.24/$247.49
Usual terms & conditions apply,
including these are all per person, port
charges & taxes extra
Prices are NOT guaranteed to last, and can
and do change (upward) fast and without
notice. However, your price is guaranteed
once you book.
JAMES F. C. ROSE - YOUR Cruise Expert
information: (204) 889-3885
fax: (204) 889-3885
reservations: (204) 889-3885 & (800) 414-8091
Still having problems with my '800' number,
thus please try my '204' number.
|
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" ' "
Important reminder, for all new articles, submissions and or comments
for the "The Netletter" please send to:
Our joint e-mail address is:
please add to your Address Books.
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will get an automatic copy and so we can keep up with the continuity of
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)
Number 668, Mar 5th, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2200+
Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
To get in touch with either editor/pilot our email address is
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. We recently welcomed Elaine Miller retired Air Canada Customer Sales and
Service Agent living in Calgary and who sends this bio -
Just a short intro. I joined TCA in Sydney, N.S. as a secretary. Shortly after
we became Air Canada and I transferred to Calgary into Reservations, then
located next to the then new Calgary Inn(now the Westin). Soon we moved the
office to the Addison House on 4th St. SW. prior to the next office move to
Palliser Square in the 1970's. I took maternity leave and subsequently, after
the birth of my first daughter, Meagan, I resigned to stay home. No maternity
benefits then. After the birth of my third daughter, I returned to Air Canada
in Reservations and two years later transferred to Calgary Airport until i
retired in may,1999. I have always enjoyed my years with Air Canada and like to
keep in touch with my former colleagues. ElaineThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
We also had Dr Fred Moffat join us. Email isThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
He is a former TCA/AC employee but an ex-pat with a life-long aviation
interest, especially in Canadian aviation. He is a North Star aficionado and
has contributed to the AirShared Magazine and is the patron of the painting of
North Star CF-TFL that headlines the Air Canada Photo Gallery. Check out
www.acfamily.net
And Dennis Kennedy Dennis Kennedy of Calgary, AB
Former - Airworthiness Controller, Technical Services
Previously based in YXD/YEG/YYC/YVR with Pacific Western, Canadian Airlines and
Air Canada, commuted from YYC to YVR from 1996 to 2001.
And now Stuart F. Russell retired from Air Canada Jan 2001, was with Canadian
Airlines as Manager, Schedule Implementation, Scheduling and Planning,Calgary,
Alberta Sept 1990 to Jan 2001
Manager, System Airport Operations, Standards and Procedures, Toronto, Ontario
July 1988- September 1990
With Pacific Western Airlines as
Manager, Terminal Control, Customer Services Edmonton, Alberta Aug 1984 - July
1988
Project Coordinator, Hercules & Resupply Operations Edmonton, Alberta Dec 1981
- Jul 1984
Duty Manager, Airport Services Yellowknife, N.W.T. March 1980 - November 1981
Chief Loadmaster, Flight Operations Edmonton, Alberta March 1977 - February
1980
Training and Check Loadmaster, Flight Operations Edmonton, Alberta Oct 1976 -
Feb 1977
Loadmaster, Flight Operations Edmonton, Alberta August 1972 - September 1976
Overseas flying assignments with the Pacific Western “ Hercules Operation”
during 1972/1980
email isThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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.Mutterings from the Pionair districts -
Vancouver Pionairs Annual Spring Luncheon
Date: April 10, 2002
Time: 11:30AM
Location: Park Plaza Hotel - Vancouver Airport Conference Resort (previously
the Delta Pacific Resort and Conference Centre), 10251 St. Edwards,
Richmond.
Cost: $20.00 per person
For further information contact Jean Chernenko at 604-946-2939 email
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or Al Rogiani 604-943-4427. Cheques to be mailed to Al
Yallouz, 57 W42nd Ave, Vancouver, B.C. V5Y 2S8.
Tables (for 10) may be reserved in advance by sending one cheque for entire
table including the names of those in your group. Off shore retirees from
Asia and Latin America are being invited and we look forward to welcoming
them on this occassion. If by chance you are not a Pionair member yet plan
to attend as Jannet Tricarico our Membership Chair will ensure Membership
Applications are available at the luncheon. This will be an excellent
opportunity for us to renew old acquaintances and make new friends.
Glen Steeves
District Director
Vancouver District Pionairs
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. Bob Kieley wanted to visit the desert grave yard in Arizona, this is the
information he
sent us -
Here's a response I got from a Bob Mcandrew to Tony Hobbs.
>
> Subject: Evergreen Air Center - Photo Visit
> (This is in response to an e-mail I sent to The Tucson Chamber of Commerce.
>
> "Thank you for your interest and requesting permission to visit the Evergreen
> Air Center to view and or photograph the aircraft. Evergreen Air Center is a
> private commercial aircraft maintenance and storage facility. Many of our
> contracts specifically forbid the photography of our customer's aircraft.
> Additionally, since Sept 11 we, like other commercial and private airports,
> have increased our security and restricted access to the airport.
> Accordingly, we regret we cannot accommodate a visit to our facility."
> Regards,
> Robert McAndrew
> VP Marketing
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. Remember when!
Fred Meredith sent us this information -
Historical record Trans-Canada Air Lines Flight Operations -
First male employee: D.R.MacLaren May 15th 1937
First female employee: Lucille Garner July 1st 1938
First pilot: Z.L.Leigh Aug 20th 1937
First mail & passenger flight:
Vancouver - Seattle
Sept. 1st, 1937 at 5.00 pm
Pilots - E.P.Wells & F.M.McGregor
Aircraft - Lockheed 10A CF-AZY
Passengers - D.R.MacLaren (Asst to V.P.)
P.W.Baldwin, (Auditor
C.N.)
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. For ex PWA'ers -
From Patty SchachterThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
At Last! The day draws near. The PWA Reunion is coming to the TELUS
Convention Center, in Calgary, August 23 and 24, 2002. IF you ever received a
pay cheque from PWA you are eligible to attend. For those of you who are not
former PWA employees, I’m hoping that you may still be in touch with those who
were. Thank you in advance for your help.
Check out our website at www.pwareunion.com . All the information you need
is on
the website.
The organizing committee would really appreciate your help with a few things:
Please pass this information on to as many former PWA employees that you
possibly can. We are relying on word of mouth / email addresses to reach
potential attendees.
Being former airline personnel you will understand that we are doing this
without a budget to support us so we need to get as many registrations and
cheques into the bank account as possible before March 20th when we have to
send
in a deposit for the venue. Please encourage your contacts to act quickly.
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. Ted Tierney has come up with this Viscount story -
Flight Maintenance, near disasters again.
The Netletter 663 article about Viscount No 624 reminds me of a somewhat
similar (non event) of taxiing too early, but to a loading gate on this
occasion. At the time Dorval was undergoing an extensive terminal alteration
with buildings and parking areas in a state of transition, some new facilities
coming into use with others becoming ever more rundown, all eventually to
become entirely dormant. Arriving too early found gate 9 still occupied. So
simply taxied and innocently parked in a vacant unused area clear of traffic
waiting for clearance to the gate.
Minutes later "Technician 605...move off... you are blasting the airport
anemometer to hell" Which was fortunate for me, otherwise you could have been
down some, in readers!
Another event in much the same circumstance (actually on the same spot). On
idle standby, close to a Viscount awaiting clearance with engines running and
waiting to move to a gate, happened to hear a single thunderous crashing sound
above the scream of the engines. Looked around on all sides but seeing nothing
unusual returned to my normal half stupor state. Then again, yet another
horrendous CRASH.
Jumping around ..... still nothing to see. Only this time with the cobwebs well
cleared kept eyeing about away from the aircraft as best I could.
Then I spotted what was happening. It seems that a low slant roofed terminal
building just aft of the airplane must already have had the roof securing J -
bolts partly removed from inside the building. To my absolute horror saw the
roof rising from the eaves to pivot up some.....then slam down again. Repeated
a few times as I developed sore hands banging on the aircraft skin to attract
attention, but no dice. Just before the plane did move off, the roof rose up
just about vertical with the Viscount occupants entirely unaware of anything
atall unusual. Little did the busloads of people coming up at the terminal to
work know that the terminal was in danger of coming to them.
Ted Tierney.
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. Malcolm Lunan sends this info re the Hanger #6 fire -
Bob Lunan started with TCA in hangar 6 bay1. TCA took over hangar 5 as
headquarters. My office window in millwright shop faced hangar 6 bay 4 where
fire started. RCAF used bays1-4. TCA lost a tow tractor that was immoble
between the hangars due to heat.
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. Terry's travel tips
Last Chance To Register For The West Coast Experience.
The Vancouver Interline Club is hosting a 6-day/7-night tour of British
Columbia’s West Coast, from Apr. 7 to 13. The deadline to reserve space for
this package is Mar. 7, at a cost of $736 Cdn ($463 U.S.) For more information,
contact Ann Harward atThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. , Eric Moilliet at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or
Sheila Read atThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. .
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2 BEDROOM SUITES WITH KITCHEN
ONLY $225US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
LAKE TAHOE-TAHOE BEACH & SKI CLUB
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ONLY $149US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
DAYTONA BEACH-SILVER BEACH CLUB RESORT CONDO
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BAHAMAS-VACATION CLUB AT BAHAMIA
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)
Number 668, Mar 5th, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2200+
Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
To get in touch with either editor/pilot our email address is
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. We recently welcomed Elaine Miller retired Air Canada Customer Sales and
Service Agent living in Calgary and who sends this bio -
Just a short intro. I joined TCA in Sydney, N.S. as a secretary. Shortly after
we became Air Canada and I transferred to Calgary into Reservations, then
located next to the then new Calgary Inn(now the Westin). Soon we moved the
office to the Addison House on 4th St. SW. prior to the next office move to
Palliser Square in the 1970's. I took maternity leave and subsequently, after
the birth of my first daughter, Meagan, I resigned to stay home. No maternity
benefits then. After the birth of my third daughter, I returned to Air Canada
in Reservations and two years later transferred to Calgary Airport until i
retired in may,1999. I have always enjoyed my years with Air Canada and like to
keep in touch with my former colleagues. Elaine
We also had Dr Fred Moffat join us. Email is
He is a former TCA/AC employee but an ex-pat with a life-long aviation
interest, especially in Canadian aviation. He is a North Star aficionado and
has contributed to the AirShared Magazine and is the patron of the painting of
North Star CF-TFL that headlines the Air Canada Photo Gallery. Check out
www.acfamily.net
And Dennis Kennedy Dennis Kennedy of Calgary, AB
Former - Airworthiness Controller, Technical Services
Previously based in YXD/YEG/YYC/YVR with Pacific Western, Canadian Airlines and
Air Canada, commuted from YYC to YVR from 1996 to 2001.
And now Stuart F. Russell retired from Air Canada Jan 2001, was with Canadian
Airlines as Manager, Schedule Implementation, Scheduling and Planning,Calgary,
Alberta Sept 1990 to Jan 2001
Manager, System Airport Operations, Standards and Procedures, Toronto, Ontario
July 1988- September 1990
With Pacific Western Airlines as
Manager, Terminal Control, Customer Services Edmonton, Alberta Aug 1984 - July
1988
Project Coordinator, Hercules & Resupply Operations Edmonton, Alberta Dec 1981
- Jul 1984
Duty Manager, Airport Services Yellowknife, N.W.T. March 1980 - November 1981
Chief Loadmaster, Flight Operations Edmonton, Alberta March 1977 - February
1980
Training and Check Loadmaster, Flight Operations Edmonton, Alberta Oct 1976 -
Feb 1977
Loadmaster, Flight Operations Edmonton, Alberta August 1972 - September 1976
Overseas flying assignments with the Pacific Western “ Hercules Operation”
during 1972/1980
email is
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.Mutterings from the Pionair districts -
Vancouver Pionairs Annual Spring Luncheon
Date: April 10, 2002
Time: 11:30AM
Location: Park Plaza Hotel - Vancouver Airport Conference Resort (previously
the Delta Pacific Resort and Conference Centre), 10251 St. Edwards,
Richmond.
Cost: $20.00 per person
For further information contact Jean Chernenko at 604-946-2939 email
Yallouz, 57 W42nd Ave, Vancouver, B.C. V5Y 2S8.
Tables (for 10) may be reserved in advance by sending one cheque for entire
table including the names of those in your group. Off shore retirees from
Asia and Latin America are being invited and we look forward to welcoming
them on this occassion. If by chance you are not a Pionair member yet plan
to attend as Jannet Tricarico our Membership Chair will ensure Membership
Applications are available at the luncheon. This will be an excellent
opportunity for us to renew old acquaintances and make new friends.
Glen Steeves
District Director
Vancouver District Pionairs
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. Bob Kieley wanted to visit the desert grave yard in Arizona, this is the
information he
sent us -
Here's a response I got from a Bob Mcandrew to Tony Hobbs.
>
> Subject: Evergreen Air Center - Photo Visit
> (This is in response to an e-mail I sent to The Tucson Chamber of Commerce.
>
> "Thank you for your interest and requesting permission to visit the Evergreen
> Air Center to view and or photograph the aircraft. Evergreen Air Center is a
> private commercial aircraft maintenance and storage facility. Many of our
> contracts specifically forbid the photography of our customer's aircraft.
> Additionally, since Sept 11 we, like other commercial and private airports,
> have increased our security and restricted access to the airport.
> Accordingly, we regret we cannot accommodate a visit to our facility."
> Regards,
> Robert McAndrew
> VP Marketing
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. Remember when!
Fred Meredith sent us this information -
Historical record Trans-Canada Air Lines Flight Operations -
First male employee: D.R.MacLaren May 15th 1937
First female employee: Lucille Garner July 1st 1938
First pilot: Z.L.Leigh Aug 20th 1937
First mail & passenger flight:
Vancouver - Seattle
Sept. 1st, 1937 at 5.00 pm
Pilots - E.P.Wells & F.M.McGregor
Aircraft - Lockheed 10A CF-AZY
Passengers - D.R.MacLaren (Asst to V.P.)
P.W.Baldwin, (Auditor
C.N.)
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. For ex PWA'ers -
From Patty Schachter
At Last! The day draws near. The PWA Reunion is coming to the TELUS
Convention Center, in Calgary, August 23 and 24, 2002. IF you ever received a
pay cheque from PWA you are eligible to attend. For those of you who are not
former PWA employees, I’m hoping that you may still be in touch with those who
were. Thank you in advance for your help.
Check out our website at www.pwareunion.com . All the information you need
is on
the website.
The organizing committee would really appreciate your help with a few things:
Please pass this information on to as many former PWA employees that you
possibly can. We are relying on word of mouth / email addresses to reach
potential attendees.
Being former airline personnel you will understand that we are doing this
without a budget to support us so we need to get as many registrations and
cheques into the bank account as possible before March 20th when we have to
send
in a deposit for the venue. Please encourage your contacts to act quickly.
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. Ted Tierney has come up with this Viscount story -
Flight Maintenance, near disasters again.
The Netletter 663 article about Viscount No 624 reminds me of a somewhat
similar (non event) of taxiing too early, but to a loading gate on this
occasion. At the time Dorval was undergoing an extensive terminal alteration
with buildings and parking areas in a state of transition, some new facilities
coming into use with others becoming ever more rundown, all eventually to
become entirely dormant. Arriving too early found gate 9 still occupied. So
simply taxied and innocently parked in a vacant unused area clear of traffic
waiting for clearance to the gate.
Minutes later "Technician 605...move off... you are blasting the airport
anemometer to hell" Which was fortunate for me, otherwise you could have been
down some, in readers!
Another event in much the same circumstance (actually on the same spot). On
idle standby, close to a Viscount awaiting clearance with engines running and
waiting to move to a gate, happened to hear a single thunderous crashing sound
above the scream of the engines. Looked around on all sides but seeing nothing
unusual returned to my normal half stupor state. Then again, yet another
horrendous CRASH.
Jumping around ..... still nothing to see. Only this time with the cobwebs well
cleared kept eyeing about away from the aircraft as best I could.
Then I spotted what was happening. It seems that a low slant roofed terminal
building just aft of the airplane must already have had the roof securing J -
bolts partly removed from inside the building. To my absolute horror saw the
roof rising from the eaves to pivot up some.....then slam down again. Repeated
a few times as I developed sore hands banging on the aircraft skin to attract
attention, but no dice. Just before the plane did move off, the roof rose up
just about vertical with the Viscount occupants entirely unaware of anything
atall unusual. Little did the busloads of people coming up at the terminal to
work know that the terminal was in danger of coming to them.
Ted Tierney.
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. Malcolm Lunan sends this info re the Hanger #6 fire -
Bob Lunan started with TCA in hangar 6 bay1. TCA took over hangar 5 as
headquarters. My office window in millwright shop faced hangar 6 bay 4 where
fire started. RCAF used bays1-4. TCA lost a tow tractor that was immoble
between the hangars due to heat.
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. Terry's travel tips
Last Chance To Register For The West Coast Experience.
The Vancouver Interline Club is hosting a 6-day/7-night tour of British
Columbia’s West Coast, from Apr. 7 to 13. The deadline to reserve space for
this package is Mar. 7, at a cost of $736 Cdn ($463 U.S.) For more information,
contact Ann Harward at
Sheila Read at
Interlining Plus has these deals -
HAWAII-KAUAI BEACHBOY HOTEL
AVAILABLE MAR. 4, MAR. 11, APR. 8-MAY 6
ONLY $149US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
LAS VEGAS-CLIFFS AT PEACE CANYON
AVAILABLE APR. 6, 13, 26, MAY 3, 4, 10 & 11
2 BEDROOM SUITES WITH KITCHEN
ONLY $225US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
LAKE TAHOE-TAHOE BEACH & SKI CLUB
AVAILABLE APR. 20, 27, MAY 4 & 11
ONLY $149US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
DAYTONA BEACH-SILVER BEACH CLUB RESORT CONDO
AVAILABLE MAR. 16-APR. 6
ONLY $199US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
BAHAMAS-VACATION CLUB AT BAHAMIA
AVAILABLE MAR. 2, 9 & 16
ONLY $149US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
ST THOMAS-BLUEBEARD'S CASTLE-EQUIVEST MANA
AVAILABLE MAR. 2, 3, 9, 10, 16, & 23
ONLY $149US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
ACAPULCO-VACACIONAL TORTUGA
AVAILABLE MAR. 2 & APR. 6
ONLY $149US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
ACAPULCO-IMPERIAL INTERNATIONAL VACATION
AVAILABLE MAR. 2 & 9
ONLY $149US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
CABO SAN LUCAS-SUN CLUB/PLAZA LAS GLORIAS
AVAILABLE MAR. 2 & 16
ONLY $149US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
CANCUN-IMPERIAL FIESTA CLUB
AVAILABLE APR. 7
ONLY $149US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
CANCUN-GIRASOL
AVAILABLE MAR 2 & APR. 6
ONLY $149US PER PERSON-7 NIGHTS
*based on double occupancy for studio suites
*$50us more per person for 1 bedrooms where available
*availability subject to change
Call Interlining Plus -Toll Free: 1 800 665 3100
Local Phone: (604) 606-1700
Fax: (604) 606-1720
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Number 667 Mar 2nd, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
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. Need to know.
Employee communications advise -
Important Information Kiosks Now Collect Required Data For
U.S. Bound Customers.
The next phase in collecting Advance Passenger Information (API), that is
required by U.S. Customs in advance of an aircraft landing
in the U.S., is ready. Effective Feb. 28, kiosk users who are travelling
without bags will enjoy the features of one stop check-in. All customers and
employees who use our Express Check-in kiosks will be requested, through a
pop-up screen, to enter and confirm five basic pieces of identification: full
legal name, date of birth, gender, nationality and travel document number. If
all the API data is filled in correctly, a boarding pass will be issued.
Otherwise, a kiosk assistance coupon (KAC) will be generated and the customer
will be directed to a check-in counter.
March Spring Break Plan Ahead And Bring Alternate Tickets.
Spring Break is here again and over the coming weeks we’re anticipating heavy
flight loads, especially on weekends. Standby travel during March will be
extremely difficult. Before you leave home for destinations in Canada, Europe
or some fun in the sun, be sure to bring back up tickets on other carriers
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. Nice to know!
From the YYZNEWS issued by brian Dunn -
Air Canada announced on Feb 20th that it will boost frequencies for the
peak March period to Florida as follows;
Montreal-FLL additional daily A320/319 March 1-17, then 4 times per week
until April 6th. Toronto-Miami will get an additional Airbus narrow body
March 1 to 18th
Toronto-Orlando get an additional Airbus narrow body March 1 to April 6th.
Additionally, they have deployed its new Airbus 321 aircraft on Toronto- Ft.
Lauderdale and Toronto-West Palm Beach routes. It replaces the smaller A320
until April 6th.
A boost in overall services to the U.S.A. this summer as follows;
Halifax-Newark will become daily year-round effective April 7th with twice
daily CRJs. Montreal-San Francisco sees a daily year-round A319 effective
April 7th.
Toronto-Charleston becomes a daily year-round service with a CRJ....it is
currently operated three times a week only.
Vancouver-Washington-IAD sees a new daily non-stop resume for the summer
season only effective June 1st to Sept 15th with a A319.
Vancouver-Anchorage will have a daily A319 service from May 13 until
September 15th. Vancouver-Phoenix will have a daily year-round service
operated with a Boeing 737.
Calgary-Phoenix also becomes a year-round daily 737 service.
Alberta-Hawaii service to be re-introduced for the winter of 2002/2003 with
non-stop service from Calgary to both Honolulu and Maui and from Edmonton to
Honolulu and Maui. These flights will begin December 1st and operate with
Boeing 767 aircraft.
A further expansion of the Tango network for the summer.
Effective June 17th there will be London-Halifax, and
London-Calgary-Vancouver routes added as well as new Windsor-Ottawa-Halifax,
and Windsor-Winnipeg-Calgary service daily.
Out west, a new Saskatoon-Vancouver and Regina-Vancouver routes will be added.
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. May Day!
Help Needed!!
I need an overnight single and possibly also a double or triple , near Glasgow
Airport Hopefully inexpensive. Maybe B&B. Night of 5th July possibly 4th also.
We are joining a group arriving 6.30 am 6th july
any info would be appreciated .
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. From the YYZNEWS issued by brian Dunn -
...Air Canada announced on February 15th that it has agreed to donate
to the
Canada Aviation Museum in Ottawa a vintage 1960s Douglas DC-9 aircraft. The
aircraft is scheduled to be delivered to the Ottawa museum ( at Rockliffe
airport -YRO) this spring. The announcement was made at Montreal-Dorval during
an official "retirement" ceremony and party held for employees at the
maintenance hangars. The DC-9 has been the workhorse of the Air Canada fleet
for almost 36 years. The airline took delivery of its first DC-9 on January 6,
1966 and became the first airline outside of the USA to adopt this aircraft
type. It gradually replaced the Vickers Viscount fleet of turbo prop aircraft.
At its peak there were 50 DC-9s in the fleet.
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. A final word on the item re cigarette duty mentioned in NetLetter nr 662 -
Alastair Thomson offered to investigate and sends this -
I checked with Canada Customs re the duty on cigarettes.
They gave me the "Welcome to Canada" declaration card E311, here is the
paragraph pertaining to duty free cigarettes.
For residents of Canada only, effective October 01 2001, you must pay duty on
cigarettes, tobacco sticks and manufactured tobacco that you include in your
personal exemption entitlement, unless they are marked "Canada-Duty Paid-Droit
Acquitte.
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. A NEW COFFEE GROUP IS BORN
On Feb 26 th, 2002 a New Retirees' Coffee Group was
Born in the Niagara Area of South - Western Ontario.
Its name is: The Niagara Peninsula Coffee Group.
At the first meeting a total of 46 Attendees were present.
Membership is not restricted to Pionairs but it is
encouraged. A number of the Central Ontario District
Pionairs were in attendance for this event.
Area Retirees are encouraged to come out and mix and
Mingle, at our next meeting. Dates are currently the
First Tuesday of each month, with the next being on
April 02nd, followed with May 07 th, and June 04th.
Meeting are planned to be held at the Frado's Restaurant,
535 Queenston Street, St. Catharines --- adjacant to
the Welland Canal.
We are attempting to have a Pass Printer at each meeting
if at all possible. This is a trip saver for this group living some
distance from a major airport.
The group selected a Chairperson, Mr. Jim Morgan, and can be contacted at
905-788-2080 .
He does not have E-Mail.
Jim's committee is as follows:
Assistant Chairperson and Pionairs Liaison -- Colin Bailey, an alternate for
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Secretary / Treasurer -- Isabel Fox
Social Committee: Carla West, Evelyn Harling & Margaret Slingerland.
At the opening meeting three Lucky Draws took place and
the Winners were as follows: Colin Bailey ( drew his own Ticket ),
Richard Careless and Richard Slingerland.
Anyone in the area is welcome to drop in on any of the above
dates when in the Niagara area. Local Retirees are encouraged
to attend.
Gord Dalziel -- Temporary Chairperson
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. News from the Districts.
The Courtenay/Comox district Pionairs held their monthly meeting on Feb
28th at
the Courtenay White Spot. 24 retirees and spouses were present.
Emcee'd by Eric van der Holt who announced that the March monthly meeting
is
cancelled as it would fall on the day following the Vancouver Island & Gulf
Island spring
lunch in Nanaimo.
Terry Baker gave an update on some of the travel information issued by Air
Canada.
Wally Lamond - Director of Vancouver Island and Gulf Island Pionairs
provides us with the timing for the upcoming spring luncheon at Nanaimo G.C. on
Mar 27th.
Meet at 11.30-1230 for cocktails & get together etc lunch at 12.30
thanks Wally Lamond
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. Charles Mackie sends us this Lancaster story, which we published way back -
This particular incident happened on a return flight back from Prestwick to
Montreal, during the winter the head winds over the North Atlantic were
strong enough that we often had to make the return over the southern route
through the Azores and then to Montreal.
We left Scotland and were heading for the Azores and the flight was routine.
We had just passed the Point of No Return between Prestwick and the Azores
when all Hell broke loose in the aircraft. I could not read the dials on my
radio set because they were shaking so badly and I glanced at number two
engine and it was shaking like a wet dog. There was a great rush of wind
inside the aircraft and my pad of paper and the navigators maps flew into
the passenger cabin.
What had happened was that one of the Prop Tips on number two engine had
broken and its trajectory was through the astro dome just over our heads. It
broke the front half of the dome away as it went past. Gil MacLaren was
flying the aircraft at the time and he didn't waste any time punching the
feathering button and getting the engine settled down.
The back half of the astro dome was still sticking up and acting as an air
scoop. So we had a 160 Knot wind inside the aircraft and this was stirring up
the dust and carrying all the papers around inside the aircraft.
George Lothian our Captain tried to stuff a seat cushion into the hole to
stop the wind from blowing inside the aircraft. He stuck it in the hole
alright but it did not stay there very long and was sucked out, and as it went
out it took the back half of the astro dome with it and the aircraft then was
like
a hugh whistle and there was a very low vibration tone.
The wind direction inside the aircraft changed and all the papers that were
blown into the passenger cabin came forward and out the
hole. George was standing under the hole and his hair was standing up
in the up draft.
I closed the door to the passenger cabin, and this reduced the wind conditon
a lot. My first duty was to assess the weather
situation, we knew before we left Prestwick that there was a real large
depression in the South Atlantic heading towards the Azores. Under normal
flight conditions we would arrived before the weather.
The whole south coast of England and France has became fogged in, it was
possible to go to Spain or Portugal but didn't want to unless it was
absolutely
the last resort because we could have been interned, so we proceeded to the
Azores.
I got on the radio and informed Prestwick and the Azores that we were on three
engines and still heading for the Azores. Number one had been advanced to
almost full power to maintain the aircraft on a straight course and the
streaks of flame coming out the six exhaust stacks was comforting, as number
two engine was dead.
About 15 minutes the oil pressure gauge on number One engine started to drop
from
normal pressure of 60 lbs to 20 lbs. We didn't know if the engine has lost
oil or if it was going to seize up. We didn't have any option but to keep the
engine going until it quit. I did get on the radio again and advise the
Azores that number one engine might be a failure.
Soon we got a comforting call back from the Azores that they were going to
send out an aircraft that was equiped with an air borne life boat, and one
of the first aircraft that had airborne radar on board. Shortly after this we
reached the pre front cloud of the approaching storm system.
Each of number three and four engines took turns at losing power, then would
give a pop and come back to power. This lasted for
about 10 to 15 minutes. The aircraft was swinging back and forth sideways as
we went. We were also beginning to lose power and the aircraft couldn't be
held at the cruise altitude of 9000 feet. We decided to look around and see
what could be jettisoned and it so happened that everything on that trip was
in mail compartment below the floor deck and we could not get at it.
The radio equiment was the easy item and we decided that we needed it. Someone
suggested that we ask if any of the passengers wanted to volunteer to jump.
They were all senior military and thus we thought that they were all very
brave, but fortunately it never came to pass.
The engines settled down after a while, but we didn't hear from the Azores
about our rescue plane so George asked me to call.
Their first response was that they were refuelling the aircraft and leaving
shortly, in the meantime, I was trying to get weather reports and the strom
was worsening. We had also slowed down and going to arrived later than
predicted.
In another half hour there was still no word from the Azores except that the
aircraft had not departed. The crew was in briefing and leaving shortly.
About 15 minutes later we got word that the aircreaft had finally taken off
and was heading in our direction.
It was a comforting thought that, if we had to ditch, some one would be able
to locate us on radar prior to ditching and then drop the lifeboat to us. As
far as I knew they never did pick us up and we never saw any trace of them.
There is one long runway at Lagans (Azores) and on the west side of the
runway there is a low range of hills. The 60 Knot cross wind on that runway
and the turbulence created by the hills made it impossible to land the plane
on that runway,.
There was a short runway at the sourthern end of the airport and it was
about 3000 feet long. We did a let-down out over the ocean to the east and
finally broke cloud and could see the shape of island through the murk. A
very welcome sight.
The shorter runway happened to be on the top of a cliff about 150 feet above
sea level. The wind down this short runway was quite gusty an the aircraft
floated well down the runway, We ran off the runway onto the grass, over a
ditch, on to more grass and finally stopped. George swung the aircraft around
and I looked out my window and could see the waves crashing on the rocks
some 100 feet below us. We had stopped close to the edge of the cliff.
Everbody got out including the passengers and had a real long nervous
"pee". it was great to be on terra ferma again.
Best regards to all
Charles Mackie
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Charles Mackie also sends this -
Please advise everyone that the Memorial List for all TCA/AC and CPA hams who
have passed away , is now in the ACFamily Network and be reached by using the
following URL
http://www.acfamily.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=579
If your readers would kindly scrutinize the List and make any additions and or
corrections and if possible supply dates of the
Silent Keys whose dates are missing., it would be appreciated.
Please advise myself atThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. or Phil Pawsey at
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Thank you all for your co operation
Charles Mackie VE7WW
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. Found on the internet by Vesta our chief pilot -
STEVE MACLEAN WILL BE NEXT CANADIAN IN SPACE
Steve MacLean will be next Canadian in space when he lifts off aboard
the <I>Space Shuttle Endeavour</I> in April 2003.
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. Terry's travel tips.
Bill Hales sends this information -
To get a form letter for a spouse of an employee/retiree showing they are
entitled to hotel/car discounts etc. when travelling alone, this can be
requested by calling the AC Pass Bureau at 1-800-665-2560. They will mail
the letter to you.
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. Smilie.
Our chief pilot Versta sends this one -
WHEN YOU NEED PROOF!
Everybody's heard of the US Air Force's ultra-high-security, super-secret
base in Nevada, known simply as "Area 51?" Late one afternoon, the Air
Force folks out at Area 51 were very surprised to see a Cessna landing
at their "secret" base. They immediately impounded the aircraft and
hauled the pilot into an interrogation room.
The pilot's story was that he took off from Vegas, got lost, and spotted
the Base just as he was about to run out of fuel. The Air Force started a
full FBI background check on the pilot and held him overnight during
the investigation. By the next day, they were finally convinced that the
pilot really was lost and wasn't a spy. They gassed up his air- plane,
gave him a terrifying "you-did-not-see-a-base" briefing, complete with
threats of spending the rest of his life in prison, told him Vegas was
that-a-way on such-and-such a heading, and sent him on his way.
The next day, to the total disbelief of the Air Force, the same Cessna
showed up again. Once again, the MP's surrounded the plane... only
this time there were two people inside. The same pilot jumped out and
said, "Do anything you want to me, but my wife is in the plane and you
have to tell her where I was last night!"
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)
Number 667 Mar 2nd, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2200+
Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
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. Need to know.
Employee communications advise -
Important Information Kiosks Now Collect Required Data For
U.S. Bound Customers.
The next phase in collecting Advance Passenger Information (API), that is
required by U.S. Customs in advance of an aircraft landing
in the U.S., is ready. Effective Feb. 28, kiosk users who are travelling
without bags will enjoy the features of one stop check-in. All customers and
employees who use our Express Check-in kiosks will be requested, through a
pop-up screen, to enter and confirm five basic pieces of identification: full
legal name, date of birth, gender, nationality and travel document number. If
all the API data is filled in correctly, a boarding pass will be issued.
Otherwise, a kiosk assistance coupon (KAC) will be generated and the customer
will be directed to a check-in counter.
March Spring Break Plan Ahead And Bring Alternate Tickets.
Spring Break is here again and over the coming weeks we’re anticipating heavy
flight loads, especially on weekends. Standby travel during March will be
extremely difficult. Before you leave home for destinations in Canada, Europe
or some fun in the sun, be sure to bring back up tickets on other carriers
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. Nice to know!
From the YYZNEWS issued by brian Dunn -
Air Canada announced on Feb 20th that it will boost frequencies for the
peak March period to Florida as follows;
Montreal-FLL additional daily A320/319 March 1-17, then 4 times per week
until April 6th. Toronto-Miami will get an additional Airbus narrow body
March 1 to 18th
Toronto-Orlando get an additional Airbus narrow body March 1 to April 6th.
Additionally, they have deployed its new Airbus 321 aircraft on Toronto- Ft.
Lauderdale and Toronto-West Palm Beach routes. It replaces the smaller A320
until April 6th.
A boost in overall services to the U.S.A. this summer as follows;
Halifax-Newark will become daily year-round effective April 7th with twice
daily CRJs. Montreal-San Francisco sees a daily year-round A319 effective
April 7th.
Toronto-Charleston becomes a daily year-round service with a CRJ....it is
currently operated three times a week only.
Vancouver-Washington-IAD sees a new daily non-stop resume for the summer
season only effective June 1st to Sept 15th with a A319.
Vancouver-Anchorage will have a daily A319 service from May 13 until
September 15th. Vancouver-Phoenix will have a daily year-round service
operated with a Boeing 737.
Calgary-Phoenix also becomes a year-round daily 737 service.
Alberta-Hawaii service to be re-introduced for the winter of 2002/2003 with
non-stop service from Calgary to both Honolulu and Maui and from Edmonton to
Honolulu and Maui. These flights will begin December 1st and operate with
Boeing 767 aircraft.
A further expansion of the Tango network for the summer.
Effective June 17th there will be London-Halifax, and
London-Calgary-Vancouver routes added as well as new Windsor-Ottawa-Halifax,
and Windsor-Winnipeg-Calgary service daily.
Out west, a new Saskatoon-Vancouver and Regina-Vancouver routes will be added.
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. May Day!
Help Needed!!
I need an overnight single and possibly also a double or triple , near Glasgow
Airport Hopefully inexpensive. Maybe B&B. Night of 5th July possibly 4th also.
We are joining a group arriving 6.30 am 6th july
any info would be appreciated .
Chuck Campbell
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. From the YYZNEWS issued by brian Dunn -
...Air Canada announced on February 15th that it has agreed to donate
to the
Canada Aviation Museum in Ottawa a vintage 1960s Douglas DC-9 aircraft. The
aircraft is scheduled to be delivered to the Ottawa museum ( at Rockliffe
airport -YRO) this spring. The announcement was made at Montreal-Dorval during
an official "retirement" ceremony and party held for employees at the
maintenance hangars. The DC-9 has been the workhorse of the Air Canada fleet
for almost 36 years. The airline took delivery of its first DC-9 on January 6,
1966 and became the first airline outside of the USA to adopt this aircraft
type. It gradually replaced the Vickers Viscount fleet of turbo prop aircraft.
At its peak there were 50 DC-9s in the fleet.
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. A final word on the item re cigarette duty mentioned in NetLetter nr 662 -
Alastair Thomson offered to investigate and sends this -
I checked with Canada Customs re the duty on cigarettes.
They gave me the "Welcome to Canada" declaration card E311, here is the
paragraph pertaining to duty free cigarettes.
For residents of Canada only, effective October 01 2001, you must pay duty on
cigarettes, tobacco sticks and manufactured tobacco that you include in your
personal exemption entitlement, unless they are marked "Canada-Duty Paid-Droit
Acquitte.
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. A NEW COFFEE GROUP IS BORN
On Feb 26 th, 2002 a New Retirees' Coffee Group was
Born in the Niagara Area of South - Western Ontario.
Its name is: The Niagara Peninsula Coffee Group.
At the first meeting a total of 46 Attendees were present.
Membership is not restricted to Pionairs but it is
encouraged. A number of the Central Ontario District
Pionairs were in attendance for this event.
Area Retirees are encouraged to come out and mix and
Mingle, at our next meeting. Dates are currently the
First Tuesday of each month, with the next being on
April 02nd, followed with May 07 th, and June 04th.
Meeting are planned to be held at the Frado's Restaurant,
535 Queenston Street, St. Catharines --- adjacant to
the Welland Canal.
We are attempting to have a Pass Printer at each meeting
if at all possible. This is a trip saver for this group living some
distance from a major airport.
The group selected a Chairperson, Mr. Jim Morgan, and can be contacted at
905-788-2080 .
He does not have E-Mail.
Jim's committee is as follows:
Assistant Chairperson and Pionairs Liaison -- Colin Bailey, an alternate for
E-Mail contact can be
Secretary / Treasurer -- Isabel Fox
Social Committee: Carla West, Evelyn Harling & Margaret Slingerland.
At the opening meeting three Lucky Draws took place and
the Winners were as follows: Colin Bailey ( drew his own Ticket ),
Richard Careless and Richard Slingerland.
Anyone in the area is welcome to drop in on any of the above
dates when in the Niagara area. Local Retirees are encouraged
to attend.
Gord Dalziel -- Temporary Chairperson
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. News from the Districts.
The Courtenay/Comox district Pionairs held their monthly meeting on Feb
28th at
the Courtenay White Spot. 24 retirees and spouses were present.
Emcee'd by Eric van der Holt who announced that the March monthly meeting
is
cancelled as it would fall on the day following the Vancouver Island & Gulf
Island spring
lunch in Nanaimo.
Terry Baker gave an update on some of the travel information issued by Air
Canada.
Wally Lamond - Director of Vancouver Island and Gulf Island Pionairs
provides us with the timing for the upcoming spring luncheon at Nanaimo G.C. on
Mar 27th.
Meet at 11.30-1230 for cocktails & get together etc lunch at 12.30
thanks Wally Lamond
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. Charles Mackie sends us this Lancaster story, which we published way back -
This particular incident happened on a return flight back from Prestwick to
Montreal, during the winter the head winds over the North Atlantic were
strong enough that we often had to make the return over the southern route
through the Azores and then to Montreal.
We left Scotland and were heading for the Azores and the flight was routine.
We had just passed the Point of No Return between Prestwick and the Azores
when all Hell broke loose in the aircraft. I could not read the dials on my
radio set because they were shaking so badly and I glanced at number two
engine and it was shaking like a wet dog. There was a great rush of wind
inside the aircraft and my pad of paper and the navigators maps flew into
the passenger cabin.
What had happened was that one of the Prop Tips on number two engine had
broken and its trajectory was through the astro dome just over our heads. It
broke the front half of the dome away as it went past. Gil MacLaren was
flying the aircraft at the time and he didn't waste any time punching the
feathering button and getting the engine settled down.
The back half of the astro dome was still sticking up and acting as an air
scoop. So we had a 160 Knot wind inside the aircraft and this was stirring up
the dust and carrying all the papers around inside the aircraft.
George Lothian our Captain tried to stuff a seat cushion into the hole to
stop the wind from blowing inside the aircraft. He stuck it in the hole
alright but it did not stay there very long and was sucked out, and as it went
out it took the back half of the astro dome with it and the aircraft then was
like
a hugh whistle and there was a very low vibration tone.
The wind direction inside the aircraft changed and all the papers that were
blown into the passenger cabin came forward and out the
hole. George was standing under the hole and his hair was standing up
in the up draft.
I closed the door to the passenger cabin, and this reduced the wind conditon
a lot. My first duty was to assess the weather
situation, we knew before we left Prestwick that there was a real large
depression in the South Atlantic heading towards the Azores. Under normal
flight conditions we would arrived before the weather.
The whole south coast of England and France has became fogged in, it was
possible to go to Spain or Portugal but didn't want to unless it was
absolutely
the last resort because we could have been interned, so we proceeded to the
Azores.
I got on the radio and informed Prestwick and the Azores that we were on three
engines and still heading for the Azores. Number one had been advanced to
almost full power to maintain the aircraft on a straight course and the
streaks of flame coming out the six exhaust stacks was comforting, as number
two engine was dead.
About 15 minutes the oil pressure gauge on number One engine started to drop
from
normal pressure of 60 lbs to 20 lbs. We didn't know if the engine has lost
oil or if it was going to seize up. We didn't have any option but to keep the
engine going until it quit. I did get on the radio again and advise the
Azores that number one engine might be a failure.
Soon we got a comforting call back from the Azores that they were going to
send out an aircraft that was equiped with an air borne life boat, and one
of the first aircraft that had airborne radar on board. Shortly after this we
reached the pre front cloud of the approaching storm system.
Each of number three and four engines took turns at losing power, then would
give a pop and come back to power. This lasted for
about 10 to 15 minutes. The aircraft was swinging back and forth sideways as
we went. We were also beginning to lose power and the aircraft couldn't be
held at the cruise altitude of 9000 feet. We decided to look around and see
what could be jettisoned and it so happened that everything on that trip was
in mail compartment below the floor deck and we could not get at it.
The radio equiment was the easy item and we decided that we needed it. Someone
suggested that we ask if any of the passengers wanted to volunteer to jump.
They were all senior military and thus we thought that they were all very
brave, but fortunately it never came to pass.
The engines settled down after a while, but we didn't hear from the Azores
about our rescue plane so George asked me to call.
Their first response was that they were refuelling the aircraft and leaving
shortly, in the meantime, I was trying to get weather reports and the strom
was worsening. We had also slowed down and going to arrived later than
predicted.
In another half hour there was still no word from the Azores except that the
aircraft had not departed. The crew was in briefing and leaving shortly.
About 15 minutes later we got word that the aircreaft had finally taken off
and was heading in our direction.
It was a comforting thought that, if we had to ditch, some one would be able
to locate us on radar prior to ditching and then drop the lifeboat to us. As
far as I knew they never did pick us up and we never saw any trace of them.
There is one long runway at Lagans (Azores) and on the west side of the
runway there is a low range of hills. The 60 Knot cross wind on that runway
and the turbulence created by the hills made it impossible to land the plane
on that runway,.
There was a short runway at the sourthern end of the airport and it was
about 3000 feet long. We did a let-down out over the ocean to the east and
finally broke cloud and could see the shape of island through the murk. A
very welcome sight.
The shorter runway happened to be on the top of a cliff about 150 feet above
sea level. The wind down this short runway was quite gusty an the aircraft
floated well down the runway, We ran off the runway onto the grass, over a
ditch, on to more grass and finally stopped. George swung the aircraft around
and I looked out my window and could see the waves crashing on the rocks
some 100 feet below us. We had stopped close to the edge of the cliff.
Everbody got out including the passengers and had a real long nervous
"pee". it was great to be on terra ferma again.
Best regards to all
Charles Mackie
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Charles Mackie also sends this -
Please advise everyone that the Memorial List for all TCA/AC and CPA hams who
have passed away , is now in the ACFamily Network and be reached by using the
following URL
http://www.acfamily.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=579
If your readers would kindly scrutinize the List and make any additions and or
corrections and if possible supply dates of the
Silent Keys whose dates are missing., it would be appreciated.
Please advise myself at
Thank you all for your co operation
Charles Mackie VE7WW
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. Found on the internet by Vesta our chief pilot -
STEVE MACLEAN WILL BE NEXT CANADIAN IN SPACE
Steve MacLean will be next Canadian in space when he lifts off aboard
the <I>Space Shuttle Endeavour</I> in April 2003.
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. Terry's travel tips.
Bill Hales sends this information -
To get a form letter for a spouse of an employee/retiree showing they are
entitled to hotel/car discounts etc. when travelling alone, this can be
requested by calling the AC Pass Bureau at 1-800-665-2560. They will mail
the letter to you.
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. Smilie.
Our chief pilot Versta sends this one -
WHEN YOU NEED PROOF!
Everybody's heard of the US Air Force's ultra-high-security, super-secret
base in Nevada, known simply as "Area 51?" Late one afternoon, the Air
Force folks out at Area 51 were very surprised to see a Cessna landing
at their "secret" base. They immediately impounded the aircraft and
hauled the pilot into an interrogation room.
The pilot's story was that he took off from Vegas, got lost, and spotted
the Base just as he was about to run out of fuel. The Air Force started a
full FBI background check on the pilot and held him overnight during
the investigation. By the next day, they were finally convinced that the
pilot really was lost and wasn't a spy. They gassed up his air- plane,
gave him a terrifying "you-did-not-see-a-base" briefing, complete with
threats of spending the rest of his life in prison, told him Vegas was
that-a-way on such-and-such a heading, and sent him on his way.
The next day, to the total disbelief of the Air Force, the same Cessna
showed up again. Once again, the MP's surrounded the plane... only
this time there were two people inside. The same pilot jumped out and
said, "Do anything you want to me, but my wife is in the plane and you
have to tell her where I was last night!"
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Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
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. Need to know.
Speech Recognition And The Employee Travel Website Are Mandatory.
When listing for flights, all active and retired self-ticketing employees are
now required to use the Employee Travel Website (ETW) or Speech Recognition
(SR) applications. Unfortunately, there have been incidents where
employees/retirees have been verbally
abusive to Employee Travel Services (ETS) agents when reminded
to use these applications. This behaviour is unacceptable courtesy is not an
option, it's a must. ETS agents are instructed to refer employees/retirees back
to our self-service tools.
The only exceptions are for ID, ZED and Family Affair tickets, and
employees/retirees who don’t have access to ETW or SR.
Customer Service advise that:
Gov't issued photo ID is required when travelling transborder or
international. It is also required domestically; however if a
passenger does not have gov't issued ID for a domestic flight then
they can accept other ID, such as Air Canada's.
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. Rumblings from the Pionair Districts -
Calgary -
August 23 & 24, 2002
Reunion of ex PWA Employees in Calgary. Ex PWAers are
encouraged to visit the official reunion site at
www.pwareunion.com , and send in your registration
asap. They are expecting 1500-5000 people, and yes,
there's going to be a golf tourney , Ernie Caron is in
charge of that so you know it'll have to be good!
Please forward this to everyone you know who may have the
slightest connection to
a PWA'er.
New Brunswick
March 28, 2002 - Sugaring-Off party at the Maple Smith's.
Thursday,12 noon
Cost: $10 per person This includes: a wagon tour of the
sugar woods, a
sugaring-off with sampling encouraged, a lunch of
pancakes, sausages
and maple syrup, beverages and dessert.
Location: The Maple Smiths, 2430 Mapleton Rd, Elgin NB.
To attend call 756-8248, email David Livingstone
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or call Lorraine McSwain in Moncton at 382-0303
or Frank Cogger in Saint John at 672-2159
by Monday, March 25.
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. In NetLetter nr 664, Billie Houseman-Wakarchuk supplied details of the
memorial cairn
for the TCA flight 3 and mentioned that the stewardess was not named with
the pilots but with the passengers. Billie Housemand-Wakarchuk sends this
follow-up message -
...., the stewardess killed in Flt 3 accident was Helen Saisbury. I must
have forgotten to mention her name when I mentioned she was included with
the passengers and I regret this.
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. Vern Swerdfeger sends some information on the CAIRE in the Okanagan -
We are just a social club now. The Feb. lunch was outstanding in that it was
a last minute deal after the original place went belly-up. We had 69 attend
with visitors from YVR.
Anyway here's the remainder of the current session.
-- March 20/02. YatZen in Vernon. 4011 - 32 St. Vernon. This one gets
crowded so
make sure your phoner knows your coming.
April 17/02. Shannon Lake Golf Club. The menu to follow but whatever it is
will be good. Directions Southbound: Kelowna, route 97 to traffic light at
Bartley Road (Byland Nursery) turn right to "Crystal Springs " sign then left
on Shannon Lake Road. Northbound: Thru Westbank to "Old Okanagan Hiway" light,
turn left and straight along to Shannon Lake Road. Keep left at junction. This
will be our AGM.
May 15/02. Grey Monk Winery to the west of Winfield. 1055 Camp Road,
Okanagan Centre. They have their own restaurant now called the "Grapevine Patio
Grill".
June 19/02. Zia's in Summerland. This is getting to be our June lunch every
year.
Vern
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. Found on the internet.
CHINO YEILDS FOSSILIZED WARBIRDS: A taxiway construction project at
Chino Airport has turned up a warbird graveyard -- it seems that Chino
was one of the nation's main facilities used for the disassembly of
aircraft following World War II, and now pieces of WWII aircraft are
being found in earth excavated for the taxiway project. Keenly aware
that there may be gold in them thar piles of dirt, San Bernardino
County has sealed off the piles until an assessment of their contents
reveals their value. Nearly 1,400 warbirds were dismantled on the field
and volunteers with the Air Museum Planes of Fame have so far collected
about a dozen parts ranging from gear doors to bolts.
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. Further to the North Star Saga, and there are thousands, noticed a small
input from my esteemed old friend Ray Bicknell, who has a catalogue memory of
performance details of the old girl. Flew as Ray's F/O quite a few times just
prior to the retirement of the Noisy Star.
Little known, but on Dec 1, 1960, Ray and I happened to be the first flight to
operate into the new terminal building at Dorval when it opened.
We were doing a Montreal-Toronto -Montreal turnaround flight late in the
evening of November 30,1960, scheduled to arrive back at Montreal after
midnight on Dec. 1st. Didn't give it much thought at the time as there was a
Viscount flight departing slightly ahead of us to Montreal with a stop at
Ottawa, being driven by another well-known polester, Jack Parnham.
To our surprise, as we trundled up to the new terminal, no Viscount!! Plenty of
Press and flashbulbs, and Ray and I made the front page of the Gazette next
morning. Rather fitting, the old girl (#206) shortly to retire, proverbially
chuffing her way up to the gate 23 area as the first one in.
Appears, during a rush turnaround at Ottawa, during startup, the old power cart
was positioned under the Viscount's wing flaps, and not removed before flaps
were selected as part of the after start checklist, resulting in a very
embarrassed crew. Not to mention Incident/Accident Reports.
Another fact is that the Canadair North Star operated under a special Flight
Permit with TCA, rather than the usual Certification. This created some
problems for subsequent purchasers of the fleet, details of which are now
getting shrouded in the mists and memory of time.
Following the retirement of the North Star, and a brief period with Nordair, I
ended up for a few years flying around the Med and North Africa in the RAF. Saw
several Argonauts operated by Air Malta, and sundry other carriers,
destinations into Africa, out of Brussels, cargo unknown!
Just another anecdote from - Ret'd Captain Joe Gulyes. Think I'll join Bick in
Mexico. My bones could use some of the warmth via Tequila/Lime.
And another memory this time from Ed Hill -
It is great to read all about this marvellous airplane from my fellow employees
and all of the memories that go along with it, however, let me share with you
folks something that maybe 5 or 6 people are aware of.
When I was working as a 16 year old in Airways Engineering my desk was just a
few feet away from the office of one of the most loveable person I have had the
privilage of knowing..that person is no other than Capt. Ron Baker who was
TCA's engineering test pilot. Every time Capt Baker went on a test flight he
always took me with him. now this is what most people don't realize..TCA was
probably the first airline in north america to be testing automatic throttle
combined with auto instument landing system.
On this particular flight the weather was no better that 100 foot ceiling
and he demonstrated how this system would work to everyones advantage..
so the bottom line I'm trying to make is that the old North Star was involved
in a lot more that just making fond memories for some people...
Best regards..Ed Hill(r)
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A "Call for Information" from Canadian aviation author Peter Pigott.
Be a part of recorded Canadian aviation history. - Tom Grant
My ninth book, to be launched this Fall, is a pictorial history in coffee
table size of aircraft used by Canadians from the 1920s to today. Unlike my
previous works it is photos rather than text. The plan is to have a photo
for instance of Spitfires or CF_18s or 747s in all their glory with one
page of the text opposite it.
I have gathered photos from the CF Photo unit and National Archives here in
Ottawa on planes used in the Air Force and Air Canada is sending me a
number of the best photos that they have. But while I can write of the
history of each aircraft I could not hope to know what it was like to fly
these planes.
I need from a crew member who remembers is a paragraph or two, something
along the lines of ".... she was a docile old aircraft unless you put her
in a spin and then...." I will acknowledge their help in the book.
My "Flying Canuck " series ensured that many of the aviation pioneers in
this country will be remembered. Hopefully this book will do the same for
the aircraft. Thank you.
Regards
Peter Pigott
Peter Pigott
1158 St. Jerome Crescent
Orleans, Ontario
K1C 2A8
Email:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Whatever I don't use in this book will help with the Air Canada history in
2004.
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. Terry's travel tips.
Dargal has these deals on offer -
*** ALASKA ***
May 22 & June 5 ~ 7 Nights ~ Carnival's Spirit
ITINERARY: Vancouver, B.C.; to Anchorage (Seward), Alaska
May 22: Inside $599, Oceanview $799, Balcony $899 June 5: Balcony $899
May 24 ~ 7 Nights ~ Celebrity's Summit
ITINERARY: Vancouver, B.C.;to Seward, Alaska
Inside $699, Oceanview $749, Balcony $849
May 29 & June 12 ~ 7 Nights ~ Carnival's Spirit
ITINERARY: Anchorage (Seward), Alaska; to Vancouver, B.C.
May 29: Inside $599, Oceanview $699, Balcony $799 June 12: Balcony $949
May 31 ~ 7 Nights ~ Celebrity's Summit
ITINERARY: Seward, Alaska; to Vancouver, B.C.
Inside $699, Oceanview $749, Balcony $849
*** BERMUDA ***
April 28, May 12 & 19, June 2 ~ 7 Nights ~ NCL's Norwegian Majesty
ITINERARY: Boston, MA; return
April 28: Inside $699, Oceanview $799
May 12 & 19: Inside $799, Oceanview $949
June 2: Inside $849, Oceanview $999
*** CARIBBEAN - EASTERN ***
March 2 ~ 7 Nights ~ Holland America's Veendam
ITINERARY: Fort Lauderdale, Florida; return
Inside $399, Oceanview $499
*** CARIBBEAN - SOUTHERN ***
March 4 & 24 ~ 10 Nights ~ Holland America's Zaandam
ITINERARY: Fort Lauderdale, Florida return
Inside $499, Oceanview $719
March 6 & 26 ~ 10 Nights ~ Holland America's Volendam
ITINERARY: Fort Lauderdale, Florida; return
Inside $599, Oceanview $719
March 14 ~ 10 Nights ~ Holland America's Zaandam
ITINERARY: Fort Lauderdale, Florida; return
Inside $499, Oceanview $719
*** HAWAII ***
March 31, April 7, 14, 21 & 28 ~ 7 Nights ~ NCL's Norwegian Star
ITINERARY: Honolulu, Hawaii; return
Inside $499, Oceanview $599
April 15 ~ 11 Nights ~ Royal Caribbean's Legend of the Seas
ITINERARY: Honolulu, Hawaii;to Ensenada, Mexico
Inside $699, Oceanview $799, Suite $999
*** REPOSITIONING ***
April 7 ~ 17 Nights ~ Holland America's Ryndam
ITINERARY: Valparaiso, Chile; to San Diego, California
Inside $799, Oceanview $959
April 15 ~ 21 Nights ~ Holland America's Volendam
ITINERARY: Fort Lauderdale, Florida to Vancouver, B.C.
Inside $1499, Oceanview $1799
*** SOUTH AMERICA ***
March 4 ~ 17 Nights ~ Holland America's Ryndam
ITINERARY: Valparaiso, Chile to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Inside $999, Oceanview $1199
March 21 ~ 17 Nights ~ Holland America's Ryndam
ITINERARY: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to Valparaiso, Chile
Inside $999, Oceanview $1199
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Rates are quoted in U.S. dollars per person (based on
double occupancy) and are subject to change, availability
and eligibility. PORT CHARGES ARE INCLUDED. Government taxes/fees
are additional. Offers apply to new bookings only, are capacity
controlled and may be withdrawn without notice.
For more information on these and other specials, contact us at:
DARGAL Interline 1-800-690-3223 (North America)
International: (Country Code)-800-2832-7425 Fax: (250) 861-3283
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)
Number 666, Feb 26th, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2200+
Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
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. Need to know.
Speech Recognition And The Employee Travel Website Are Mandatory.
When listing for flights, all active and retired self-ticketing employees are
now required to use the Employee Travel Website (ETW) or Speech Recognition
(SR) applications. Unfortunately, there have been incidents where
employees/retirees have been verbally
abusive to Employee Travel Services (ETS) agents when reminded
to use these applications. This behaviour is unacceptable courtesy is not an
option, it's a must. ETS agents are instructed to refer employees/retirees back
to our self-service tools.
The only exceptions are for ID, ZED and Family Affair tickets, and
employees/retirees who don’t have access to ETW or SR.
Customer Service advise that:
Gov't issued photo ID is required when travelling transborder or
international. It is also required domestically; however if a
passenger does not have gov't issued ID for a domestic flight then
they can accept other ID, such as Air Canada's.
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. Rumblings from the Pionair Districts -
Calgary -
August 23 & 24, 2002
Reunion of ex PWA Employees in Calgary. Ex PWAers are
encouraged to visit the official reunion site at
www.pwareunion.com , and send in your registration
asap. They are expecting 1500-5000 people, and yes,
there's going to be a golf tourney , Ernie Caron is in
charge of that so you know it'll have to be good!
Please forward this to everyone you know who may have the
slightest connection to
a PWA'er.
New Brunswick
March 28, 2002 - Sugaring-Off party at the Maple Smith's.
Thursday,12 noon
Cost: $10 per person This includes: a wagon tour of the
sugar woods, a
sugaring-off with sampling encouraged, a lunch of
pancakes, sausages
and maple syrup, beverages and dessert.
Location: The Maple Smiths, 2430 Mapleton Rd, Elgin NB.
To attend call 756-8248, email David Livingstone
or call Lorraine McSwain in Moncton at 382-0303
or Frank Cogger in Saint John at 672-2159
by Monday, March 25.
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. In NetLetter nr 664, Billie Houseman-Wakarchuk supplied details of the
memorial cairn
for the TCA flight 3 and mentioned that the stewardess was not named with
the pilots but with the passengers. Billie Housemand-Wakarchuk sends this
follow-up message -
...., the stewardess killed in Flt 3 accident was Helen Saisbury. I must
have forgotten to mention her name when I mentioned she was included with
the passengers and I regret this.
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. Vern Swerdfeger sends some information on the CAIRE in the Okanagan -
We are just a social club now. The Feb. lunch was outstanding in that it was
a last minute deal after the original place went belly-up. We had 69 attend
with visitors from YVR.
Anyway here's the remainder of the current session.
-- March 20/02. YatZen in Vernon. 4011 - 32 St. Vernon. This one gets
crowded so
make sure your phoner knows your coming.
April 17/02. Shannon Lake Golf Club. The menu to follow but whatever it is
will be good. Directions Southbound: Kelowna, route 97 to traffic light at
Bartley Road (Byland Nursery) turn right to "Crystal Springs " sign then left
on Shannon Lake Road. Northbound: Thru Westbank to "Old Okanagan Hiway" light,
turn left and straight along to Shannon Lake Road. Keep left at junction. This
will be our AGM.
May 15/02. Grey Monk Winery to the west of Winfield. 1055 Camp Road,
Okanagan Centre. They have their own restaurant now called the "Grapevine Patio
Grill".
June 19/02. Zia's in Summerland. This is getting to be our June lunch every
year.
Vern
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. Found on the internet.
CHINO YEILDS FOSSILIZED WARBIRDS: A taxiway construction project at
Chino Airport has turned up a warbird graveyard -- it seems that Chino
was one of the nation's main facilities used for the disassembly of
aircraft following World War II, and now pieces of WWII aircraft are
being found in earth excavated for the taxiway project. Keenly aware
that there may be gold in them thar piles of dirt, San Bernardino
County has sealed off the piles until an assessment of their contents
reveals their value. Nearly 1,400 warbirds were dismantled on the field
and volunteers with the Air Museum Planes of Fame have so far collected
about a dozen parts ranging from gear doors to bolts.
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. Further to the North Star Saga, and there are thousands, noticed a small
input from my esteemed old friend Ray Bicknell, who has a catalogue memory of
performance details of the old girl. Flew as Ray's F/O quite a few times just
prior to the retirement of the Noisy Star.
Little known, but on Dec 1, 1960, Ray and I happened to be the first flight to
operate into the new terminal building at Dorval when it opened.
We were doing a Montreal-Toronto -Montreal turnaround flight late in the
evening of November 30,1960, scheduled to arrive back at Montreal after
midnight on Dec. 1st. Didn't give it much thought at the time as there was a
Viscount flight departing slightly ahead of us to Montreal with a stop at
Ottawa, being driven by another well-known polester, Jack Parnham.
To our surprise, as we trundled up to the new terminal, no Viscount!! Plenty of
Press and flashbulbs, and Ray and I made the front page of the Gazette next
morning. Rather fitting, the old girl (#206) shortly to retire, proverbially
chuffing her way up to the gate 23 area as the first one in.
Appears, during a rush turnaround at Ottawa, during startup, the old power cart
was positioned under the Viscount's wing flaps, and not removed before flaps
were selected as part of the after start checklist, resulting in a very
embarrassed crew. Not to mention Incident/Accident Reports.
Another fact is that the Canadair North Star operated under a special Flight
Permit with TCA, rather than the usual Certification. This created some
problems for subsequent purchasers of the fleet, details of which are now
getting shrouded in the mists and memory of time.
Following the retirement of the North Star, and a brief period with Nordair, I
ended up for a few years flying around the Med and North Africa in the RAF. Saw
several Argonauts operated by Air Malta, and sundry other carriers,
destinations into Africa, out of Brussels, cargo unknown!
Just another anecdote from - Ret'd Captain Joe Gulyes. Think I'll join Bick in
Mexico. My bones could use some of the warmth via Tequila/Lime.
And another memory this time from Ed Hill -
It is great to read all about this marvellous airplane from my fellow employees
and all of the memories that go along with it, however, let me share with you
folks something that maybe 5 or 6 people are aware of.
When I was working as a 16 year old in Airways Engineering my desk was just a
few feet away from the office of one of the most loveable person I have had the
privilage of knowing..that person is no other than Capt. Ron Baker who was
TCA's engineering test pilot. Every time Capt Baker went on a test flight he
always took me with him. now this is what most people don't realize..TCA was
probably the first airline in north america to be testing automatic throttle
combined with auto instument landing system.
On this particular flight the weather was no better that 100 foot ceiling
and he demonstrated how this system would work to everyones advantage..
so the bottom line I'm trying to make is that the old North Star was involved
in a lot more that just making fond memories for some people...
Best regards..Ed Hill(r)
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A "Call for Information" from Canadian aviation author Peter Pigott.
Be a part of recorded Canadian aviation history. - Tom Grant
My ninth book, to be launched this Fall, is a pictorial history in coffee
table size of aircraft used by Canadians from the 1920s to today. Unlike my
previous works it is photos rather than text. The plan is to have a photo
for instance of Spitfires or CF_18s or 747s in all their glory with one
page of the text opposite it.
I have gathered photos from the CF Photo unit and National Archives here in
Ottawa on planes used in the Air Force and Air Canada is sending me a
number of the best photos that they have. But while I can write of the
history of each aircraft I could not hope to know what it was like to fly
these planes.
I need from a crew member who remembers is a paragraph or two, something
along the lines of ".... she was a docile old aircraft unless you put her
in a spin and then...." I will acknowledge their help in the book.
My "Flying Canuck " series ensured that many of the aviation pioneers in
this country will be remembered. Hopefully this book will do the same for
the aircraft. Thank you.
Regards
Peter Pigott
Peter Pigott
1158 St. Jerome Crescent
Orleans, Ontario
K1C 2A8
Email:
Whatever I don't use in this book will help with the Air Canada history in
2004.
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. Terry's travel tips.
Dargal has these deals on offer -
*** ALASKA ***
May 22 & June 5 ~ 7 Nights ~ Carnival's Spirit
ITINERARY: Vancouver, B.C.; to Anchorage (Seward), Alaska
May 22: Inside $599, Oceanview $799, Balcony $899 June 5: Balcony $899
May 24 ~ 7 Nights ~ Celebrity's Summit
ITINERARY: Vancouver, B.C.;to Seward, Alaska
Inside $699, Oceanview $749, Balcony $849
May 29 & June 12 ~ 7 Nights ~ Carnival's Spirit
ITINERARY: Anchorage (Seward), Alaska; to Vancouver, B.C.
May 29: Inside $599, Oceanview $699, Balcony $799 June 12: Balcony $949
May 31 ~ 7 Nights ~ Celebrity's Summit
ITINERARY: Seward, Alaska; to Vancouver, B.C.
Inside $699, Oceanview $749, Balcony $849
*** BERMUDA ***
April 28, May 12 & 19, June 2 ~ 7 Nights ~ NCL's Norwegian Majesty
ITINERARY: Boston, MA; return
April 28: Inside $699, Oceanview $799
May 12 & 19: Inside $799, Oceanview $949
June 2: Inside $849, Oceanview $999
*** CARIBBEAN - EASTERN ***
March 2 ~ 7 Nights ~ Holland America's Veendam
ITINERARY: Fort Lauderdale, Florida; return
Inside $399, Oceanview $499
*** CARIBBEAN - SOUTHERN ***
March 4 & 24 ~ 10 Nights ~ Holland America's Zaandam
ITINERARY: Fort Lauderdale, Florida return
Inside $499, Oceanview $719
March 6 & 26 ~ 10 Nights ~ Holland America's Volendam
ITINERARY: Fort Lauderdale, Florida; return
Inside $599, Oceanview $719
March 14 ~ 10 Nights ~ Holland America's Zaandam
ITINERARY: Fort Lauderdale, Florida; return
Inside $499, Oceanview $719
*** HAWAII ***
March 31, April 7, 14, 21 & 28 ~ 7 Nights ~ NCL's Norwegian Star
ITINERARY: Honolulu, Hawaii; return
Inside $499, Oceanview $599
April 15 ~ 11 Nights ~ Royal Caribbean's Legend of the Seas
ITINERARY: Honolulu, Hawaii;to Ensenada, Mexico
Inside $699, Oceanview $799, Suite $999
*** REPOSITIONING ***
April 7 ~ 17 Nights ~ Holland America's Ryndam
ITINERARY: Valparaiso, Chile; to San Diego, California
Inside $799, Oceanview $959
April 15 ~ 21 Nights ~ Holland America's Volendam
ITINERARY: Fort Lauderdale, Florida to Vancouver, B.C.
Inside $1499, Oceanview $1799
*** SOUTH AMERICA ***
March 4 ~ 17 Nights ~ Holland America's Ryndam
ITINERARY: Valparaiso, Chile to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Inside $999, Oceanview $1199
March 21 ~ 17 Nights ~ Holland America's Ryndam
ITINERARY: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to Valparaiso, Chile
Inside $999, Oceanview $1199
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Rates are quoted in U.S. dollars per person (based on
double occupancy) and are subject to change, availability
and eligibility. PORT CHARGES ARE INCLUDED. Government taxes/fees
are additional. Offers apply to new bookings only, are capacity
controlled and may be withdrawn without notice.
For more information on these and other specials, contact us at:
DARGAL Interline 1-800-690-3223 (North America)
International: (Country Code)-800-2832-7425 Fax: (250) 861-3283
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)
Number 664, Feb 19th, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
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Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
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From: "Yves Cellier" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. >
Subject: 2002,2002,2002
Just nice to know.
Believe it or not but 8.02 p.m. on February 20 this year will be an
historic moment in time. It will not be marked by the chiming of any clocks
or the ringing of bells, but at that precise time, on that specific date,
something will happen which has not occurred for 1,001 years and will never
happen again.
As the clock ticks over from 8.01pm on Wednesday, February 20, time
will, for sixty seconds only, read in perfect symmetry 2002, 2002, 2002, or
to be more precise - 20:02, 20/02, 2002. This historic event will never
have the same poignancy as the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month
which marks Armistice Day, but it is an event which has only ever happened
once before, and is something which will never be repeated.
The last occasion that time read in such a symmetrical pattern was long
before the days of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock - at 10.01am on
January 10, 1001. And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is
something that will never happen again.
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Need to know.
Family Affair Is Back And The Value Is Good.
Starting March 1 to Dec. 31, 2002, all active and retired
employees and their families can take advantage of Family Affair,
the valuable travel program that offers positive space travel at discounted
fares. Fares quoted will no longer be based on zones. Instead, prices will be
40 to 70 per cent off the lowest retail fares for all Air Canada and Air Canada
Regional flights. For
more information on the program keep your eyes open for the March issue of
Horizons and www.achorizons.ca.
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. Mutterings from the districts.
The Vancouver Island and Gulf Islands Pionairs plan the spring lunch for
March 27th at the Nanaimo Golf Club in Nanaimo. Cost will be $16.00 and
includes Taxes & gratuities.
Cheques, payable to AC Pionairs will be welcomed at the home of the
treasurer Marjorie Thorpe, 1769 Astra, Comox, BC V9M 4B6 on or before March
22nd. The guest speaker is a member of the National Executive Committee of
Pionairs.
Thank you - Wally Lamond District Director.
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Patty Schachter sends this message
And I am a full fledged retiree from YYC. I was the president of the Canadian
Airlines
retirees in Calgary until we merged with AC.
I started out at PWA and of course went on to Canadian and now AC. But we
are going to have a PWA reunion this August. The first and perhaps only.
I will send you all the details when I get them and hope that you can put
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. FromThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Hi there: A little note from a recent retiree (January 2001).
I have been involved in Fund Raising for the "Starlight Children's Foundation"
ever since I joined Flight Operations Crew Scheduling in 1993. I am since
retired, but have enjoyed being included in this worthwhile cause.
January 14th we presented a unit to the Montreal Childrens Hospital. This unit
is fully mobile; consists of a TV. VCR and Nintendo which can be transported
into the children's room. This is the 5th unit we have presented to Hospitals
in Montreal.
For those of you who don't know about the "Starlight Children's Foundation" let
me tell you about us: They are a non-profit organization that enhances the
lives of critically, chronically, and terminally ill children 4 through 17
years. Starlight's services include wish-granting and related programs. At the
heart of "Starlight's" foundation is a network of over 2,400 volunteers world
wide - without whom the foundation could never survive.
The Flight Operations Pilots Crew Scheduling Department of Air Canada have
raised over $70,000 to date through their fundraising, predominantly with the
use of CF-TCC Air Canada's Lockheed L-10A Promotional Aircraft. Captain Alan
Macleod and Captain Harvey Reid have donated their time to this worthwhile
cause..
The "Starlight saying is: "One is never so tall as when one reaches down to
help a child. Together we can make wonderful things happen for some very
special children."
For people reading this Netletter who may be interested in our "Flights for
Starlight: or contibuting to the "Starlight Children's Foundation" please
e-mail:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. . The dates at this time for the flights are unknown
at this time, but please, if you would like to donate or have further questions
re our flights, let me know if your are interested. The departure is from
Montreal - the Air Canada Centre Base - 747 Hangar
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. For those readers who like telling tales -
"Name the Tail Contest" presented by the ACFamily Network
This is a fun contest to test your knowledge of 50 airline aircraft tail
graphics.
You can Win one of these four great Canadian Aviation Books...
- "Ace McCool -- Collector Edition"
- ALTIMETER RISING: My 50 Years in the Cockpit
- AVIATION MEMOIRS: A Love Affair With Flight
- NATIONAL TREASURE: The History of Trans-Canada Air Lines
(Contest closes 2359 GMT February 23, 2002)
Visit www.acfamily.net/contest to see more information and contest rules.
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Billie Houseman-Wakarchuk, former TCA/AC Chief Stewardess would like to
share some memories. This is further to the recent email regarding the "not
so recent" finding of TCA Flt 3 which was lost in the area north and east of
Mt. Seymour.
Two photos of the memorial cairns are available which we hope to place on
acfamily.net soon.
The following are the inscriptions on these two cairns.
First photo of Billie beside the cairn:
LOCATION OF AIRCRAFT N 49' 24.34 W 122' 56.84
ON APRIL 28, 1947, TRANSCANADA AIRLINES FLIGHT 3,
ENROUTE FROM LETHBRIDGE, ALBERTA WENT MISSING ON
ITS APPROACH TO VANCOUVER, BRITISH COULUMBIA. ITS LAST
REPORTED POSITION WAS OVER VANCOUVER AIRPORT
AT 2313 HOURS. THE AIRCRAFT WAS DISCOVERED
AND IDENTIFIED IN SEPTEMBER, 1994 IN A REMOTE
AREA JUST WEST OF MOUNT ELSAY, ON A SLOPE
BEHIND A RIDGE INDICATED BY THE ARROW.
Second photo with the flowers:
THIS HONOURS THE MEMORY OF THE
PASSENGERS AND CREW OF TCA FLIGHT 3
WHO PERISHED ON APRIL 28, 1947.
"THEY WHO HAVE GONE,
SO WE BUT CHERISH THEIR MEMORY
ABIDE WITH US . . . "
ANTOINE de SAINT- EXUPERY
AVAITOR AND
WRITER
CAPTAIN W.G. PIKE - FIRST OFFICER A.A. STEWART
M.R. HAMBLIN - A. LESUIK - L. MILLOR - C.P. NUGENT
M. BROWN NUGENT - C.P. REPEAR - W. ROBSON
H.M. SAISBURY - M. TRERISE - V. ARMAND - VAHOUNY
D.A. VANCE - V.J. WARREN - J.H. WOOLF
I am very sorry that the
stewardess name on the cairn was not included with the pilots. She was
identified with the passengers.
The unveiling of the stone cairns and the memorial service after the
unveiling took place on April 25, 1995. We were unable to attend the
unveiling as there were transportation problems, only invited guests were
transported to the site at Rice Lake.
The memorial was conducted in a church at Deep Cove which is near Mt.
Seymour. TCA/AC was well represented. I cannot recall all who were there,
but Jackie (captain) and Mrs. Jones, Bob(captain) Penrose, Dave (captain)
Moir, and my husband, Al Wakarchuk, and I attended.
My apologies to anyone who attended the memorial service whom I did not
mention.
The memorial service was conducted by the Vancouver Airport Chaplain, The
Reverend Frank McLeod at the invitation of Air Canada.
We hope this will be of interest to you and possibly others.
Billie Houseman-Wakarchuk
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. From Murray Wallace setting the record straight -
I hate to argue with my old friend John Bell, but Captain Clark Henning was
not on the St. Therese DC-8. He died in the unfortunate training accident at
YOW with Bill Robinson and Don Orr.
BTW, Dal Woodard was aboard the DC-8 disaster at YYZ, again not at St.
Therese, along with my old friend Bun Moore who at that time was our
contract rep at Douglas/Long Beach.
and Ron Stewert sends this -
Just a small correction of John Bell's story on Clarke Henning........he was
one of the trainee pilots on the fatal flight training accident in Ottawa
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. That DC-9 saga continues -
Air Canada To Donate DC-9 To Canada Aviation Museum in Ottawa.
On Friday, Air Canada announced it will donate a vintage 1960s
DC-9 aircraft to the Canada Aviation Museum’s collection. The aircraft, which
was the first twin-jet commercial aircraft
operated in Canada, is scheduled for delivery to the museum this spring. “Air
Canada is proud to help preserve this important piece
of Canadian aviation history by donating a Douglas DC-9 aircraft to the Canada
Aviation Museum in our nation’s capital,” said Captain
Rob Giguere, Executive Vice President, Operations. “With the retirement of the
DC-9 we say farewell to the workhorse of the
Air Canada fleet. The DC-9 changed the nature of air transportation in Canada
and represented for most Canadians their first experience of jet travel.”
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. Smilie.
From the RAPCAN eMailNews issued by Duane Frerichs
From: "B McCormack" <gram&This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. >
Subject: Overload.
We had flown our L-1011 all night from Vancouver to Prestwick, then down to
Birmingham and were on our way up to Manchester for our rest and layover.
Departure control gave us a fairly complex set of instructions ( turn to a
heading of 320, climb to 9000 ft., change to centre 124.85 and report to
them thru 5000ft.) Normally the F/O would have probably have handled all of
that but we were getting pretty tired and he missed a digit or two. They
repeated the clearance and the F/O corrected his earlier reply but
misplaced another digit or two. The exasperated controller then said " turn
to a heading of 320 and change to 124.85. We got it correct this time and
just before we changed to the new frequency a very British voice came on
the air, affecting a Southern drawl and said Y'all take care now y'hear?"
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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)
Number 664, Feb 19th, 2002. We first published in October 1995.
Circulation: 2200+
Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
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. This may interest you!
From: "Yves Cellier" <
Subject: 2002,2002,2002
Just nice to know.
Believe it or not but 8.02 p.m. on February 20 this year will be an
historic moment in time. It will not be marked by the chiming of any clocks
or the ringing of bells, but at that precise time, on that specific date,
something will happen which has not occurred for 1,001 years and will never
happen again.
As the clock ticks over from 8.01pm on Wednesday, February 20, time
will, for sixty seconds only, read in perfect symmetry 2002, 2002, 2002, or
to be more precise - 20:02, 20/02, 2002. This historic event will never
have the same poignancy as the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month
which marks Armistice Day, but it is an event which has only ever happened
once before, and is something which will never be repeated.
The last occasion that time read in such a symmetrical pattern was long
before the days of the digital watch and the 24-hour clock - at 10.01am on
January 10, 1001. And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is
something that will never happen again.
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Need to know.
Family Affair Is Back And The Value Is Good.
Starting March 1 to Dec. 31, 2002, all active and retired
employees and their families can take advantage of Family Affair,
the valuable travel program that offers positive space travel at discounted
fares. Fares quoted will no longer be based on zones. Instead, prices will be
40 to 70 per cent off the lowest retail fares for all Air Canada and Air Canada
Regional flights. For
more information on the program keep your eyes open for the March issue of
Horizons and www.achorizons.ca.
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. Mutterings from the districts.
The Vancouver Island and Gulf Islands Pionairs plan the spring lunch for
March 27th at the Nanaimo Golf Club in Nanaimo. Cost will be $16.00 and
includes Taxes & gratuities.
Cheques, payable to AC Pionairs will be welcomed at the home of the
treasurer Marjorie Thorpe, 1769 Astra, Comox, BC V9M 4B6 on or before March
22nd. The guest speaker is a member of the National Executive Committee of
Pionairs.
Thank you - Wally Lamond District Director.
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Patty Schachter sends this message
And I am a full fledged retiree from YYC. I was the president of the Canadian
Airlines
retirees in Calgary until we merged with AC.
I started out at PWA and of course went on to Canadian and now AC. But we
are going to have a PWA reunion this August. The first and perhaps only.
I will send you all the details when I get them and hope that you can put
the info into the netletter!
(Stay tuned for more info later this year! - eds)
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. From
Hi there: A little note from a recent retiree (January 2001).
I have been involved in Fund Raising for the "Starlight Children's Foundation"
ever since I joined Flight Operations Crew Scheduling in 1993. I am since
retired, but have enjoyed being included in this worthwhile cause.
January 14th we presented a unit to the Montreal Childrens Hospital. This unit
is fully mobile; consists of a TV. VCR and Nintendo which can be transported
into the children's room. This is the 5th unit we have presented to Hospitals
in Montreal.
For those of you who don't know about the "Starlight Children's Foundation" let
me tell you about us: They are a non-profit organization that enhances the
lives of critically, chronically, and terminally ill children 4 through 17
years. Starlight's services include wish-granting and related programs. At the
heart of "Starlight's" foundation is a network of over 2,400 volunteers world
wide - without whom the foundation could never survive.
The Flight Operations Pilots Crew Scheduling Department of Air Canada have
raised over $70,000 to date through their fundraising, predominantly with the
use of CF-TCC Air Canada's Lockheed L-10A Promotional Aircraft. Captain Alan
Macleod and Captain Harvey Reid have donated their time to this worthwhile
cause..
The "Starlight saying is: "One is never so tall as when one reaches down to
help a child. Together we can make wonderful things happen for some very
special children."
For people reading this Netletter who may be interested in our "Flights for
Starlight: or contibuting to the "Starlight Children's Foundation" please
e-mail:
at this time, but please, if you would like to donate or have further questions
re our flights, let me know if your are interested. The departure is from
Montreal - the Air Canada Centre Base - 747 Hangar
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. For those readers who like telling tales -
"Name the Tail Contest" presented by the ACFamily Network
This is a fun contest to test your knowledge of 50 airline aircraft tail
graphics.
You can Win one of these four great Canadian Aviation Books...
- "Ace McCool -- Collector Edition"
- ALTIMETER RISING: My 50 Years in the Cockpit
- AVIATION MEMOIRS: A Love Affair With Flight
- NATIONAL TREASURE: The History of Trans-Canada Air Lines
(Contest closes 2359 GMT February 23, 2002)
Visit www.acfamily.net/contest to see more information and contest rules.
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Billie Houseman-Wakarchuk, former TCA/AC Chief Stewardess would like to
share some memories. This is further to the recent email regarding the "not
so recent" finding of TCA Flt 3 which was lost in the area north and east of
Mt. Seymour.
Two photos of the memorial cairns are available which we hope to place on
acfamily.net soon.
The following are the inscriptions on these two cairns.
First photo of Billie beside the cairn:
LOCATION OF AIRCRAFT N 49' 24.34 W 122' 56.84
ON APRIL 28, 1947, TRANSCANADA AIRLINES FLIGHT 3,
ENROUTE FROM LETHBRIDGE, ALBERTA WENT MISSING ON
ITS APPROACH TO VANCOUVER, BRITISH COULUMBIA. ITS LAST
REPORTED POSITION WAS OVER VANCOUVER AIRPORT
AT 2313 HOURS. THE AIRCRAFT WAS DISCOVERED
AND IDENTIFIED IN SEPTEMBER, 1994 IN A REMOTE
AREA JUST WEST OF MOUNT ELSAY, ON A SLOPE
BEHIND A RIDGE INDICATED BY THE ARROW.
Second photo with the flowers:
THIS HONOURS THE MEMORY OF THE
PASSENGERS AND CREW OF TCA FLIGHT 3
WHO PERISHED ON APRIL 28, 1947.
"THEY WHO HAVE GONE,
SO WE BUT CHERISH THEIR MEMORY
ABIDE WITH US . . . "
ANTOINE de SAINT- EXUPERY
AVAITOR AND
WRITER
CAPTAIN W.G. PIKE - FIRST OFFICER A.A. STEWART
M.R. HAMBLIN - A. LESUIK - L. MILLOR - C.P. NUGENT
M. BROWN NUGENT - C.P. REPEAR - W. ROBSON
H.M. SAISBURY - M. TRERISE - V. ARMAND - VAHOUNY
D.A. VANCE - V.J. WARREN - J.H. WOOLF
I am very sorry that the
stewardess name on the cairn was not included with the pilots. She was
identified with the passengers.
The unveiling of the stone cairns and the memorial service after the
unveiling took place on April 25, 1995. We were unable to attend the
unveiling as there were transportation problems, only invited guests were
transported to the site at Rice Lake.
The memorial was conducted in a church at Deep Cove which is near Mt.
Seymour. TCA/AC was well represented. I cannot recall all who were there,
but Jackie (captain) and Mrs. Jones, Bob(captain) Penrose, Dave (captain)
Moir, and my husband, Al Wakarchuk, and I attended.
My apologies to anyone who attended the memorial service whom I did not
mention.
The memorial service was conducted by the Vancouver Airport Chaplain, The
Reverend Frank McLeod at the invitation of Air Canada.
We hope this will be of interest to you and possibly others.
Billie Houseman-Wakarchuk
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. From Murray Wallace setting the record straight -
I hate to argue with my old friend John Bell, but Captain Clark Henning was
not on the St. Therese DC-8. He died in the unfortunate training accident at
YOW with Bill Robinson and Don Orr.
BTW, Dal Woodard was aboard the DC-8 disaster at YYZ, again not at St.
Therese, along with my old friend Bun Moore who at that time was our
contract rep at Douglas/Long Beach.
and Ron Stewert sends this -
Just a small correction of John Bell's story on Clarke Henning........he was
one of the trainee pilots on the fatal flight training accident in Ottawa
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. That DC-9 saga continues -
Air Canada To Donate DC-9 To Canada Aviation Museum in Ottawa.
On Friday, Air Canada announced it will donate a vintage 1960s
DC-9 aircraft to the Canada Aviation Museum’s collection. The aircraft, which
was the first twin-jet commercial aircraft
operated in Canada, is scheduled for delivery to the museum this spring. “Air
Canada is proud to help preserve this important piece
of Canadian aviation history by donating a Douglas DC-9 aircraft to the Canada
Aviation Museum in our nation’s capital,” said Captain
Rob Giguere, Executive Vice President, Operations. “With the retirement of the
DC-9 we say farewell to the workhorse of the
Air Canada fleet. The DC-9 changed the nature of air transportation in Canada
and represented for most Canadians their first experience of jet travel.”
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. Smilie.
From the RAPCAN eMailNews issued by Duane Frerichs
From: "B McCormack" <gram&
Subject: Overload.
We had flown our L-1011 all night from Vancouver to Prestwick, then down to
Birmingham and were on our way up to Manchester for our rest and layover.
Departure control gave us a fairly complex set of instructions ( turn to a
heading of 320, climb to 9000 ft., change to centre 124.85 and report to
them thru 5000ft.) Normally the F/O would have probably have handled all of
that but we were getting pretty tired and he missed a digit or two. They
repeated the clearance and the F/O corrected his earlier reply but
misplaced another digit or two. The exasperated controller then said " turn
to a heading of 320 and change to 124.85. We got it correct this time and
just before we changed to the new frequency a very British voice came on
the air, affecting a Southern drawl and said Y'all take care now y'hear?"
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. DID YOU KNOW?
That you can read or retrieve back issues of "theNetLetter" ?
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http://www.acfamily.org/netletter
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