Aviation Memorabilia Newsletter

From  Friday March 17, Montreal Gazette.
BREDT, Paul William (Bill) Passed away peacefully at home, March 15, 2000
at seventy seven years of age, after a long struggle "fighting the demon
Ca". Left to mourn are his wife Maxine Llewellyn, sons: Duff (Ingrid), Bill
(Cathy), Paul and daughter Christine, and five grandchildren, his sister
Anna, and brother, Mac.
Bill was well known in flying circles, serves as a pilot in W.W. II,
T.C.A./Air Canada, and was a competitive curler and golfer who loved life.
Special thanks to a great Dr. Welik, "above and beyond" care of V.O.N. Anne
Sullivan, and grateful thanks to our special Minister, Cynthia Mitchell,
plus our caring friends. Private burial followed by Memorial Service March
22 at 2 PM, Wyman Memorial Church, Hudson. In lieu of flowers, donations to
Hudson V.O.N or Wyman Memorial Church would be greatly appreciated.


"Home is the sailor, home from the sea,
And the airman home from the sky".


Dave Walker


Vesta in Victoria



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Number 466  March 31st, 2000,  We first Published in October 1995


Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   -    Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. We welcome -
Helen Smith-Narraway Flight Attendant lives in Portland, ON
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Jean Chernenko retired Passenger Agent  living in Delta B.C.
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Gerald J. Mitchell lives in Sooke, B.C. email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Jeanne Helaouet retired and lives in Trois-Rivieres, QC
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Richard Corbeil email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
living in Boisbriand, QC. Customer Service Manager
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Worked at Air Canada many moons ago and have many fond
memories and a lot of acquaintances there still.
My Name is  Lynn W. Evoy. I live in White Rock, B.C. and the last
time I  flew, August 30th, 1999, I was a Captain on the DC-10.
PS.  My two sons, Jim (A320/YYZ)& John (B767/YVR), fly for Air Canada.
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I am N.J. (Jack) Logan, currently residing in Delta, B.C. and I
retired as Flight Operations Director, Vancouver base, in 1981.
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Carollyne Sinclaire email:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Flight Attendant lives
in Abbotsford, B.C.
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London, ON Spouse of James Millar (deceased)


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. Need to know.
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REDUCED RATE TRAVEL WITH oneworld. (Affects Canadian Airlines)
A reminder that, with the departure of CDN/CRA from the oneworld
alliance, all oneworld pass travel for employees, parents, etc. will
end May 31.
Therefore, if your oneworld trip is not complete by May 31, you must
find an alternate route for the return.
We will provide updates on potential interline agreements with the
remaining  oneworld carriers, as the information becomes available.


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. We welcomed Herbert Butcher recently and he kindly sends this bio -
On Oct. 22nd, l945 I began work with T.C.A. in the Aircraft Statistical
Bureau, Wpg. I was age 17.  This was a department of Accounting but
later became part of Maintenance.  In 1963 I was transferred to Dorval
where I held the positions of Office Methods Supervisor and Office
Production Supervisor.  A few years later I was appointed Supervisor
Personnel Administration in the Office of the Vice President Operations,
PVM, Montreal.  After the company reorganization I was transferred to
Customer Service Headquarters, Montreal as Personnel Services Supervisor.
In 1972 I returned to Wpg. as Pension and Retirement Specialist in the
Personnel Branch.  Seven years later I joined the Finance Branch as
Administration Manager where I remained until I elected to take early
retirement in May 1983.  After working in so many different branches I
was fortunate to be associated with many fine people and I would be
pleased to hear from any of my past associates..
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Also Pab Wispinski sends this bio -
Really don't know how I ever had time to work?? a little about myself,
I sarted with T.C.A. in  Edmonton in 1949, (at YXD Airport,) Station
Attendant, then shortly after, to Ramp Agent Weight & Balance, then to
Ramp Supervisor, and ended my career with Air Canada in 1983 as a
Customer Service Manager. My 34 years all in Edmonton??  
The next 10 years career in financial Industry, and full retirement,
in 1993. Member of pioneers in Edmonton.
Current occupation? Winter - Computer & Woodworking and would appreciate
contact with any other Wood Craft Buffs & exchange Ideas?
Summer - is Golf and Gardening, and no time to relax??
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. Ian Gardner sends this from OZ -
For interest of anyone heading Down Under to OZ a new Penguin Australian
Accommodation Guide has been produced - a hefty volume covering about
16,000 places to stay across Australia from serviced apartments to City
Hotels and B. & Bs. Further info available from publishers Web site at
www.jasons.com.au -  local price A$29.95. Possibly available also through
Penguin distributors in Canada.
Anyone coming to OZ should make sure that they visit this lovely Island
served by Ansett or their subsidiary Kendal Airlines from both Melbourne
and Sydney - remember the Olympics later this year.
best wishes and thanks for all the NLs - Ian Gardner
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. T2K coffee group -
Don't forget the upcoming coffee klatch on Tuesday, April 4th at the
Golden Griddle - Airways Centre on the airport strip at 1100.
Al Graham is hoping to attend as many people are expressing concern
about former retirees not being included in pension raises.
Several people have been discussing this since last November and feel
that perhaps it's time to engage a lawyer to look into the matter.
This would mean everyone kicking in an amount of money as a retainer.
So you might want to attend this klatch and pass the word along to all
other retirees.
Also I would appreciate you spreading the word about the party for
Sam MacDonald. Sam Macdonald has gotten her transfer to YSJ.
As a matter of fact, she has already gone. But she will return to pack
up and for a party in her honour. April 10 - 1500 hours
Port Credit Legion  $10 for present and some eats. Take QE west to
Mississauga Rd. Take Mississauga Rd. south to under the railroad bridge
and Post Rd. is on the left. Take Post Rd. and you'll see the Legion on
the left.....If you end up on the Lakeshore off Mississauga Rd.....
you've gone too far........
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. Phil Pawsey sent this to the RAPCAN newsletter issued by Duane Frerichs
I have heard this before and think it is true but not completely sure.
Paying Attention
One of strangest "crashes" in aviation history, as related by noted
aviation author Ernest K. Gann, involved a PBY Catalina amphibian that
was being ferried to Europe by way of Greenland. Flying across the
Greenland icecap, the pilots were simply relying upon their view out
the windshield without watching and cross-checking their instruments.
The first indication that anything wrong was when they realized that
there was no sound of the plane passing through the air and that the
airspeed indicator read zero, even though engines were turning at normal
cruise power. Since the scenery as they flew over the icecap consisted of
nothing but white-on-white, their senses had fooled them into thinking
that they were flying straight and level when, in reality, they were in
a very slow descent.
The descent was so slow, in fact, that, at cruise power, they had
literally flown right onto the icecap. Their touchdown on a smooth,
snow-covered area was so light that they simply slid across the icecap
as the snow gradually reduced their speed until they came to a complete
standstill. The "landing" was so light and the slow-down so gradual that
neither pilot felt a thing.
When they realized what had happened, they shut down the engines and
jumped out onto the snow, laughing themselves silly.
Postscript: Their laughter didn't last long, though...because of all
the snow, they couldn't get up enough speed to take off again and spent
a couple of cold days waiting for a rescue party to arrive.
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. Bob Robbins sends us these memories -
Subject:  The Late Captain George Lothian
News of Captain George Lothian's death tugged my heartstrings.
He and I were members of Transatlantic Regional Operations Manager
Captain Maurice McGregor's management team.
Here's one happy memory:
In the early fifties Maurice often had Friday morning meetings of
the team.  He and George loved their cigars, and each usually consumed
at least one per meeting.
One Friday George and Maurice lit up their stogies, and the meeting
ground along as usual.  However on this morning Maurice seemed to find
that participation was steadily fading away.  It took him a while to
notice that all eyes were on George, and a little while longer to see
that they were focussed on the lengthening ash on George's cigar.
It was only after the ash was at least  four inches long, and it became
evident that George was puffing deeply and rapidly, that the meeting
collapsed in roars of laughter. George finally confessed, showing us
that he'd straightened a paper clip and buried it in the outer length
of his smoke!
Another memory of George....
One day in the fifties I was on the Dorval Trans-Atlantic ramp just
after a flight from the UK had arrived.  George was the Captain, and I
noticed that he seemed to be searching the ramp for something.
When I asked if I could help he said that he was looking for the Station
Attendant who signalled his aircraft onto the ramp.   I pointed out
Bob Sauberli, and then asked him if there was something wrong.
He said no, but that he'd been recently complaining about poor signals
by our Station,  and Bob had done so well that he wanted to recognize a
significant improvement -- after probably more than 20 hours up and a
North Star Atlantic crossing!  George was always a gentleman.
With fond memories
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. Alan Rust sends this info -
About the AC Family Network.
The AC Family Network is busy building a group of sites (a "Network" so
to speak) of special interest to the AC "Family".
The main site is at: www.acfamily.net with other complete web sites
beneath it. We "host" some of those other sites (for free) in order to
bring a broader range of content for all active or retired employees.
Some "sub" sites are independent from the AC Family Network and operated
by different administrators and webmasters who maintain separate member
lists for their own groups.
The NetLetter and A-Crew are part of the    overall system and although
independently operated, we work together as a team to bring information
to all groups of all ages.
I hope this explains the setup better.
For further information please go to: http://www.acfamily.net/who.html
Regards,Alan Rust  Web Administrator


Air Canada will commence daily non-stop service between Toronto and
Amsterdam. Flights on the new route will be operated with Air Canada
wide body Boeing 767-200 aircraft featuring the airline's acclaimed
Executive First and Hospitality service.


As of March 26, the Star Alliance members are:
Air Canada, Air New Zealand, All Nippon Airways, Ansett Australia,
Austrian Airlines Group, Lufthansa German Airlines, Scandinavian Airlines
System - SAS, Thai Airways International, United Airlines and
VARIG Brazilian Airlines. Singapore Airlines is set to join the
alliance next month, to be followed later this year by Mexicana Airlines
and British Midland Airways.
With the addition of the new members, the Star Alliance network will
cover more than 800 destinations in 130 countries.
Alan Rust  Web Administrator AC Family Network http://www.acfamily.net
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. From the RAPCAN newsletter issued by Duane Frerichs This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. -
RUMOURS AND TRUTHS
Rumour: AC will merge AC and CDN seniority lists.
Truth: This is false. The Company is not the custodian of seniority
lists.
They're owned and controlled by the Unions and their  membership.
The final decision on whether to keep the lists separate or file
applications under the Canada Labour Code to merge them is ultimately
up to the Unions and their membership.
Rumour: Eighteen months after CDN migrates to RESIII, both AC and
CDN will revert to SABRE.
Truth:  This is false. However, AC's long-term goal is to align its
reservations system with Star Alliance members. No decision
has been made on which system will be used.
Rumour: Due to the integration of AC and CDN, AC will introduce a
Weight and Balance office in Vancouver (YVR).
Truth: This is false. Air Canada will not start up a Weight and Balance
office in YVR. Details on the CDN Weight and Balance operation's
integration into AC is still under review.
Rumour: AC will now perform CDN's passenger service handling in the US.
Truth: CDN and CRA will be contracting passenger service handling from
AC at Newark (EWR), Houston (IAH), LaGuardia (LGA), Los Angeles
(LAX), Miami (MIA) and San Francisco (SFO). At other stations,
CDN and Canadian Regional Airlines (CRA) will remain with their
current provider or contract their work to United Airlines.
Rumour: CDN employees will be offered retirement incentive packages
but AC employees will not.
Truth: This is false. Details of the Voluntary Separation Program
will be forwarded to all employees of both airlines in mid-April.

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. Vesta, our Chief pilot thought this may be of interest -
March 8, 2000 OTTAWA, March 7 /CNW/ - NAV CANADA and Air Canada are
pleased to announce the completion of successful transatlantic
communication trials that will significantly improve the communication
between aircraft flying across the North Atlantic and the Gander Automated
Air Traffic Control System (GAATS). The traditional method of communication
with aircraft over the North Atlantic is via voice communications using
High Frequency (HF) radio where the quality varies depending on atmospheric
conditions. The increasing growth in the number of flights over the North
Atlantic further emphasizes the problems of HF communications due to
frequency congestion. The communication system known as ``Controller Pilot
Data Link Communications'' (CPDLC) replaces voice communication with a
digital communication link whereby a coded message, such as a position
report or a clearance, is transmitted. Messages are relayed between the
aircraft and controllers via satellites, air-ground stations and ground
networks. CPDLC introduces into the cockpit a communication system that
will provide faster, more reliable communication and help reduce pilot and
controller workload.



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. Terry's travel tips.
Royal Antiguan Beach and Tennis Resort,  Deep Bay P.O. Box 1322
St. Johns, WI Antigua & Barbuda   Phone 800-345-0356 or 268-462-3733
Majestically situated at breathtaking Deep Bay, the Royal Antiguan Beach
and Tennis Resort offers you an escape from the everyday.
Features:
Air-Conditioned acommodations; Early morning coffee; Rum Punch party;
Daily Snorkeling, Sunfish siling, Windsurfing and kyaking; Freshwater
pool with Swim-up bar; Eight Championship tennis courts;
Electronic Casino; Live nightly entertainment; Satellite TV in your room;
Direct-dial telephones in your room; Childrens playground;
Shopping arcade; Beach chairs; Four bars to choose from;
three Restaurants for Dining; Fitness center; Tour desk;
Your Royal-Inclusive Vacation Features All of the Above Plus:
All Meals (breakfast, lunch, dinner) Beverages (house-brand liquors,
house wine by the glass, Caribbean beer, tropical coolers and soft drinks.
All Taxes, Gratuities and Service Charges
Reservations and rates. Reservations 14 days in advance by phone, or fax.
Active and retired airline employees eligible. Must present valid
ID at check-in.
Rates: All-inclusive Summer $89.50 USD, Winter $99.50 USD per person,
per night based on double occupancy.
European Plan Summer $29.50 USD, Winter $39.50 USD per person,
per night based on double occupancy.
All rates based on availability.


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. Smilie.
Gord Dalziel sends this one -
Funny Captains
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In Boston our flight was delayed at the terminal for about an
hour.  When the plane finally taxied onto the runway the captain
came on the intercom to apologize.  Making light of the issue,
he said, "Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to apologize for the
delay.  It is crucial to the company that we provide the same
service to all of our customers.  The ground crew was on break and
we had to wait for them to return to insure that the right number
of bags were sent to the wrong location."


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. DID YOU KNOW?
That you can read or retrieve back issues of  "theNetLetter" ?
Just visit our web site at:                 
http://www.acfamily.net/netletter
and click on the "Archives" button.
This area is only open to "the NetLetter"  subscribers and you will
need the following password to enter -
User Name: netletter  Password: vesta


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Number 465  Mar 28th, 2000,  We first Published in October 1995


Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   -    Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. Welcome to -
Peter McBain Customer Service Baggage living in Brechin, ON
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. Need to know.

New ECC, FTD and courier service
Industry Travel is pleased to announce Air Canada employees,
retirees, widow/ers in North America will now be offered
several new ticket delivery options for certain types of
tickets.

--Partner ticket--
Two (2) ticketing options are now offered
- ftd - free ticket delivery service via comail to the
business address for active employees / via Canada Post
for off-payroll employees with a delivery guarantee
of 7 business days - service charge is payroll deducted
where applicable.
- Courier service with $20.00cad fee to the employee home
address with a delivery guarantee of 4 business days -
courier fee is collected by credit card and service
charge is payroll deducted where applicable
--OAL reduced rate ticket - ZED or Id90/75-
Three (3) ticketing options are now offered
- airport/cso pickup during employee ticketing times.     
- FTD - free ticket delivery service via comail to the
business address for active employees / via Canada Post
for off-payroll employees with a delivery guarantee
of 7 business days - ticket(s) purchased by credit card
- courier service with $20.00cad fee to the employee home
address with a delivery guarantee of 4 business days -
courier fee is collected and ticket(s) purchased by
credit card
US based employees are subject to the $20.00 courier fee in
ca$ funds which will be converted to the applicable US$
amount on the credit card statement
requests are handled by the Employee Call Centre only -
please indicate to the reservations agent the preferred
method of ticket issuance / delivery.

Revised Air Canada & Canadian Airlines interline agreement
*******effective 24 January, 2000*******

Q & A
q.When will I be able to use my personal trip pass ticket
on Canadian?
a. January 24, 2000
q. Are AC regional carrier employees also permitted to
imprint trip pass tickets for travel on Canadian?
a. Yes
q. Will widows/ers be permitted to travel on Canadian?
a. Yes they will now have access to CP flights.
q. Will the same zone service charge apply when travelling
on Canadian?
a. Yes, CP routes are included in the chart.
q. Can I use one trip pass ticket for combined travel on
AC/rRgional flights and Canadian?
a. Yes
q. What is my personal priority on Canadian?
a. It is S4J6 and in accordance with the time of check-in at
the airport.
q. Where do I call to register for the flights?
a. Canadian does not have a dedicated call centre for
employee travel - you must call the local Canadian
airlines reservation offic.
q. Can my spouse imprint a T421 trip pass ticket with her
25 year anniversary spousal card for travel on Canadian?
a. Yes
q. Are common-law and same-sex spouses included?
a. Yes
q. Are we allowed to travel on Canadian code-sharing flights?
a. NO - only flights operated by Canadian & Canadian regional.
q. Are AC T421 trip pass tickets also accepted on the
Canadian partners?
a. NO - Canadian partners (Air Alma, Air Norterra,
Air St.Pierre, Calm Air, Canadian North, Ontario Regional,
Pacific Coastal and Southwest Home Aviation) are excluded
q. Are my parent,s service charge tickets valid on Canadian?
a. Parents continue to purchase ZED - ZM fares as per the
current CP/AC interline agreement
q. Is the travel Partner program extended to include CP?
a. Not at the present time
q. Is the Family Affair program available on CP flights?
a. Not at the present time
q. Can I use an ID-80 reduced rate ticket on Canadian?
a. NO - but you may purchase ID-50 for positive space travel
q. Is my service anniversary or award of excellence ticket
valid on Canadian?
a. Not at the present time
q. Can employees request compassionate travel on Canadian?
a. Not at the present time
q. are cargo reductions extended on Canadian?
a. not at the present time
q. What is the personal priority of Canadian airlines staff
when they travel on AC and AC Regionals?
a. Their priority is C4/Y10 and in accordance with the date
of registration
q. Is the CP non-revenue dress code similar to ours?
a. Yes
q.  Should one trip pass ticket not be sufficient to cover
the entire itineraries, can AC employees use stopover
coupons?
a. NO, Air Canada ACF21a stopover coupons are not accepted
by Canadian.  Ticketing should be arranged through the
Employee Call Centre who will prepare a locator file
(pnr) for airport ticketing on a revenue T171 ticket
stock.  The service charge will then be collected at the
time of ticket issuance.
q. What will happen to people if Air Canada or Canadian no
longer flies to a station or the schedule is reduced?
will we do something about pass priorities?    
a. We have examined a number of options in an attempt to
deal with this issue.  we considered adjustments on
a system-wide basis as well as on those routes that
would be heavily impacted by flight reductions.  as you
are aware, the two airlines have separate and distinct
pass policies, and travel privileges on each airline
are affected by company service dates.  At this time,
we are unable to integrate both service dates into one
program.
q.  What happens to our travel benefits for business and
personal travel?
a.  There is no change to the current interline agreement.
employees can fly on both carriers as per the enhanced
reciprocal exchange of passes that were recently
announced.
q.  Will our travel priorities be affected when travelling
on Star Alliance carriers?
a.  There will be NO difference for Air Canada employees
travelling onStar Alliance carriers.  Canadian airlines
personnel, however, could eventually enjoy similar
benefits once the two airlines become fully integrated.
q.  I,m a commutter.  what does this mean for my travel
priority?
a.  On Air Canada flights your priority remains unchanged
however, the company considers commuting as part of
personal travel.  Should Air Canada no longer fly to
a station or reduce the schedule, you will be able to
travel on Canadian airlines using your personal travel
priority but at a lower priority than Canadian airlines
employees.
The reverse would apply to Canadian airlines employees.
q.  Can I use my trip pass ticket on CP operated code-sharing
flights?
a. Yes, trip pass tickets are accepted for travel on AC/CP
code-sharing flights.  However, if the flight is operated
by CP, registration must be made through CP reservations
office.

Manchester/Glasgow situation
Whether travelling
there on direct flights or on one of our winter schedule,s
three weekly circle flights between Manchester-Glasgow
to/from Toronto, contingent travellers, including travel
Partners, cannot be accepted on board unless empty seats
are available from Manchester.  Employees should make
alternate travel arrangements for themselves and travel
Partners before leaving home base.

AC/LH joint venture flight
Please note that AC employees and eligible family members
as of November 15 may fly on the AC/LH joint venture
flights by using their T-421 trip pass tickets. LH will
accept Parent/travel Partner tickets on T171 stock at
the Air Canada service charges.  Travel Partner (max 2)
must be accompanied by the employee.
unaccompanied Partner travel is not recommended because
Partners travelling alone can,t purchase reduced rate
back-up tickets on other airlines.

(May we suggest you keep this information with 'Your Travel Guide' - eds)


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. Roy Campbell sends us his bio -
I learned to fly at the Cranbrook Flying Club, Cranbrook BC in 1950.
I got my Private there and my Commercial at Vancouver with the
Vancouver's U-Fly. I was on the TCA F/O course in July, 1953.
My first base was Calgary on the DC-3's until spring of 1955 when
I transferred to Vancouver. I flew the Coast run on DC-3's, then the
Mountain run on North Stars. My Viscount debut came in 1957, the
aircraft I would be on for the next twelve years.
A move to Winnipeg happened in 1961; promotion to Captain status was
reached in 1965. The DC-9 was next in 1969, on which I remained until
1979 when I took early retirement to go into the Baptist ministry.
Winnipeg remained home until moving to Grand Forks, BC, in 1997,
my wife's home town.
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. Remember when?
Gordon White has sent us some back copies of The Canadian Airline
Pilot magazine - here is one extract July 1963.
At midnight April 12th 1963, Trans-Canada Air Lines Douglas DC-3
CF-TES fin 391 touched down at Winnipeg International Airport to
herald the end of another chapter in the history of Canadian aviation.
For Captain Gerald Palmer, First Officer David Hennigar and
Stewardess Jean McIver, it was not only the end of another circuit
over the Prairie Milk Run, but an end of an era born more than
17 years before. It was the last DC-3 operation of by Canada's
national carrier. One pilot was heard to remark that if he got paid
by the number of landings rather than the number of flying hours in
the DC-3, he would be rich. Altogether the 30 DC-3's flew more than
875,000 hours and no DC-3 was ever involved in a passenger fatality
nor was any written off. They were retired honourably from TCA to
continue service with such organizations as DOT, Frontier Airlines,
Quebecair, Central Northern Airways, Matane Air Services, Gulf Aviation,
Rimouski Airlines and TransAir.
CF-TES msn 11906 fin 391 was sold to TransAir April 13th 1963 oo
Lambair Ltd in June 1967, withdrawn from service 1970 and sent to
the Western Canada Aviation Museum in Winnipeg where it is (was)
preserved in its original Trans-Canada Air Lines livery.


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. Terry's travel tips.
Amazing, Timeless, Beautiful Alaska.....Every mile brings something
exciting and wonderful.
NCL Norwegian Wind ~ 7 Nights Vancouver return
8 & 22 May  Inside $439   Outside $539   3rd & 4th $239
12 June     Inside $539   Outside $639   3rd & 4th $339
19 June, 31 July, 14 August 28 August
Inside $439  Outside $539   3rd & 4th $339
NCL Norwegian Sky ~ 7 Nights ~ Seattle return
21, 28 May, 4, 18 & 25 June Inside $539   3rd & 4th $289
11 June                     Inside $839   3rd & 4th $389
2, 9,16, 23 & 30 July       Inside $639   3rd & 4th $289
If you are looking for an "earthbound heaven" then visit the beautiful,
lush subtropical paradise of Bermuda.
NCL Norwegian Majesty ~ 7 Nights ~ Boston return
23 April         Inside $439   Outside $539   3rd & 4th $339
30 April         Inside $339   Outside $439   3rd & 4th $339
7 & 14 May       Inside $539   Outside $639   3rd & 4th $339
3, 10, 17 & 24 September Inside $489   Outside $589   3rd & 4th $339
1, 8 & 15 October Inside $489   Outside $589   3rd & 4th $289
All rates are US$ per person, based on double occupancy
and subject to availability and eligibility. New Bookings only.
Port Charges/Govt Fees are additional.
For more information on these and other specials - contact us at:
DARGAL Interline 1-800-690-3223


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CAN I GET A FOOT MASSAGE, TOO?
USA Today reported this week on the efforts by some airline pilots to
go the extra mile for passengers trapped on the ground by flight delays.
The "extra mile" is down the street to get hamburgers, pizza and other
fast food to help placate an increasingly restive (and hungry) flying
public when they are stuck at the gate.  For example, one United Airlines
pilot whose plane diverted to Minneapolis-St. Paul in February phoned
Domino's from the cockpit, and had 15 jumbo pizzas brought to the rear
stairs to feed 105 unhappy passengers.
Airline managers are happy with such initiatives, as long as the pilots
pick up the tab.


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Number 464  March 26th, 2000,  We first Published in October 1995


Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson   -    Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. We welcome -
Tom Bryce Cargo Services Specialist lives in Pitt Meadows, BC
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Lucien Guillaume retired Manager, Contract Service administration
lives in St. Jacobs, ON email  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Edward (Ted) Berrie retired Lead Mechanic Millwright Shop living
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. Ian Gardner sends this message from OZ -
Many thanks to both yourself and Terry and confirm that am receiving
letters regularly and find lots in them of interest particularly when
we receive very little Canadian news. Any movement as to changes in the
AC/CAI-story of particular importance e.g. plans of AC to operates
international route to Sydney, Aus.- as we were hoping to make a trip
to see our son later this year.
Meanwhile, for the record, a potted history of the 30 plus yrs spent
with the Company :
Joined TCA in Prestwick, Sep 1947 as P/A then Rsvns and finally Sales Rep.
In 1963 moved to HQ Sales and Marketing until l969 apart from two brief
spells at YHZ airport prior to moving to Prague beginning of 1970 to set up
Sales and Ops there for start of new service. Moved back to HQ again late
1970 again in Sales/Mktg prior to moving to MBJ part 72/73 before returning
to HQ in Planning and Industry Affairs, remaining there until retirement in
late ''77. Brief spell as consultant with Jim English in Cayman Islands in
'78 before moving to Geneva at end of year to join IATA for 2 years.
Finally retired to Scotland at start of l980 enjoying return to homeland
for 16 years but regular trips to OZ to see two daughters and families
finally persuaded us to move ourselves out to the sunshine in Tasmania. So
far no regrets whatsoever except that we are further away than ever from
son Neil and family in YQM.
Best regards and good wishes for the continuing good work in keeping us in
touch. Ian Gardner-------  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. From RAPCAN issued by Duane Frerichs This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
. Golfers take note ...
Subject: Air Canada Flight Operations Golf Tournament - Toronto
Date: Thursday, March 16, 2000 9:22 AM
Hopefully this year will have a better turnout of the retired pilots.
Air Canada Flight Operations Annual Golf Tournament - Toronto
This year's tournament will be held at the Flamborough Hills Golf Club
in Ontario on Wednesday June 14th, 2000 with the proceeds to be
donated to DREAMS TAKE FLIGHT. Last year thanks to many individuals,
companies and organizations, we were able to donate over $2,500.00 to
DREAMS TAKE FLIGHT.
The cost for golf and dinner is $85.00 with the tee-off times scheduled
to begin at 11:00am and dinner to begin at approximately 6:30pm.
For further information please contact First Officers Karen & Don Mundell
at 905-689-4306 or e-mail at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..
Information and directions to the Flamborough Hills Golf Club can be
found at their website http://www.flamborohills-golf.com/


From: Edward Hill
Subject: fight in cockpit


It was interesting to read about this "fight in cockpit" in your latest
newsletter.
It brings back memories when I was a DC-9 Capt. flying into YYT.
My F/O was Jean Guy Page and we were about 800ft on final when this
drunk came bursting into the cockpit and hammered me on the right side
of my head. I yelled at Jean Guy for help while I concentrated on flying
the airplane and making a decision whether to land or go around.
With all the commotion in the cockpit I decided to land and declared an
emergency. The tower got hold of the Mounties and when we stopped on the
runway the flt. attendant opened the front door and the Mounties
proceeded up the stairs. Meanwhile our attacker met the Mounties at the
door and cold cocked one of them and down the stairs he flew. The rest of
the Mounties finally subdued him and gave him the what for.
He was arrested and thrown in the local jail. Meanwhile I was laying
charges against him along with the Mounties. A few days later I received
a phone call from one of AC lawyers to ask me if I would consider
dropping the charges. I asked why and he advised me he was a priest on
holidays and he drank too much rum before leaving YHZ. Also the Mounties
worked him over that week-end. I reluctantly agreed and that was the end
of it.
Thought it might be interesting reading for your viewers.
edward hill <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>



TERMINATION OF ALASKA AIRLINES (AS) CODESHARE
CDN and AS have agreed they will end their codeshare on Aug. 20.
CATHAY PACIFIC (CX) CODESHARE ALSO ENDS IN AUGUST
CRA UPDATE
In response to employees concerns, CRA answered the following questions
from their employees this week:
Q. What is the status of the Regional integration process?
A. An integration structure has been formalized that outlines
responsibilities for core departments and sub teams. These teams are
working to find "quick wins" and synergies in our current operations,
as well as determine the best path forward as we move toward a single
Regional airline. In the meantime, we remained focused on the
priorities of maintaining safe and reliable operations, and
implementing the Summer 2000 Schedule.
Q. Is AA talking to the government about buying CRA?
A. Media reports indicate AA has been in discussion with the federal
government regarding foreign ownership laws. However, we have
received  no indication of an interest to purchase CRA from any party.
THE TOP OF THE WORLD
The Ottawa Citizen recently reported that as early as next year,
Canadian airlines and their passengers could be saving significant time
and money flying non-stop to Asia over the top of the world and through
once-forbidden Siberian airspace via new polar air routes. The current
flight time for a Boeing 747-400 travelling from YYZ to DEL, via the
traditional North Pacific route, is 15 hours and 25 minutes. Nav Canada
estimates a more direct polar route would trim that by about 2 hours.
YVR to DEL would save 4 hours and NYC to HKG would save 5 hours.

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. From the YYZNEWS issued by Brian Dunn
Under the integratons plans for the regional airlines it looks like
all Beech 1900 operations across the country are going to be operating
under the Air Alliance banner, including Air Georgian and Central
Mountain Air out west.
WestJet Airlines is expecting to take delivery of another 737-200
shortly.  This one will be ex-LAN Chile and is due in Abbotsford for
mods prior to entering WestJet service.  Another 737 may be coming from
El Al to bolster their fleet.


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. Found on the internet.
British Airways is committed to All Employee Share Ownership.
Presently 4% of BA shares are currently held by employees - the
airline would like that figure to be 10%. In an effort to increase
this %, BA employees will be invited to join a 3 year scheme and
commit to saving regular monthly amounts and receive a tax-free bonus
at the end. The price has been fixed for the next 3 years at 238p.


Toronto will be the first of 8 North American gateways to enjoy
British Airways' new Next generation four-class products.
Starting Jan 2001, double daily with B777 and B747 equipment with
early and late departures. BA has serviced Toronto for the
past 40 years.


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. Northwest is the first major carrier to allow customers to complete
their entire check-in process via the internet - including printing
boarding passes from their own PC's. The technology, which is being
tested on selected corporate clients, should be available to all
passengers by early 2001.


. Ten of Europe's biggest airlines are in advanced talks on setting
up an internet travel agency. British Airways is spearheading the
travel agency, dubbed Online Travel Portal. It looks set to
include Air France, Lufthansa, KLM and Swissair. It is estimated
that a saving of GBP1 million a year from selling through its planned
e-commerce venture.


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. Help!
Pearl Piers is still looking for some hotel contacts in Rome, Italy.
Anyone help out here?
Pearl Piers  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. Terry's travel tips.


Channel Islands -
The Pontiac House Hotel, Jersey until May 15th
3 nights B&B @ GBP72.00 pp Half board @ GBP87.00
Seaview/Balcony includes car hire (excl CDW & gas)
full English breakfast and Dinner (HB)
All rooms en-suite.
Phone 01534-857771


Visiting Nashville?
Some hotels in the airport area, with prices until June -
Wingate Inn $59.00 1-4 people continental breakfast 615-884-9777
Red Roof Inns $39.99 Mon-Sat 1-4 people $34.99 Sun 615-872-0735
Family Inns $28.77-$36.77 2-4 people cont. breakfast 615-889-5090
Days Inn $42.95 1-4 people cont. breakfast 615-889-8881.
The above offers are only available with a discount coupon from the
Travel Coupons booklet available free at MacDonalds or Denny's or
visit http://www.travelcoupons.com and print your own!.


****Princess*****
*Panama Canal*
Sea Princess - 11 Day Panama Canal - 4/29 from Ft. Lauderdale to Acapulco
Rates starting at $799.00
Dawn Princess - 11 Day Panama Canal - 4/30 from San Juan to Acapulco
Rates starting at $699.00
Ocean Princess - 11 Day Panama Canal - 4/22 from San Juan to Acapulco
Rates starting at $699.00
Sun Princess - 10 Day Panama Canal - 10/10 from Acapulco to San Juan
Rates starting at $999.00
Sun Princess - 10 Day Panama Canal 10/20, 10/30, 11/9, 11/19, 11/29 & 12/9
Sail between Pt. Caldera and San Juan Rates starting at $999.00 
Crown Princess - 10 Day Panama Canal 10/31, 11/10, 11/20, 11/30 & 12/10
Sail roundtrip from Ft. Lauderdale Rates starting at $999.00
*Mexico*
Sea Princess - 7 Day Mexico - 5/10  from Acapulco to Los Angeles
Rates starting at $399.00
Dawn Princess - 7 Day Mexico - 5/11 from Acapulco to Los Angeles
Rates starting at $399.00
Ocean Princess - 7 Day Mexico - 5/3 from Acapulco to Los Angeles
Rates starting at $399.00
Sun Princess - 7 Day Mexico - 4/29  from Acapulco to San Francisco
Rates starting at $399.00
*Trans-Atlantic*
Grand Princess - 15 Day Trans-Atlantic - 5/21 from Ft. Lauderdale
to Barcelona Rates starting at $1,299.00
Crown Princess - 12 Day Mediterranean/Atlantic - 5/9  from Rome to
Copenhagen Rates starting at $899.00
Grand Princess -12 Day Grand Mediterranean - 6/5 from Barcelona to
Istanbul Rates starting at $999.00
*Caribbean*
Grand Princess - 7 Day Caribbean - 4/30 roundtrip from Ft. Lauderdale
Rates starting at $499.00
*****Holland America*****
Ryndam - 7 Day Western Caribbean  4/8  roundtrip from
Ft. Lauderdale $538.00 - Inside  $588.00 - Outside Cabin
Veendam - 7 Day Western Caribbean - 4/9 roundtrip from Ft. Lauderdale
$538.00 - Inside Cabin  $588.00 - Outside Cabin
Volendam - 7 Day Eastern Caribbean - 4/14  roundtrip from Ft. Lauderdale
$538.00 - Inside Cabin $588.00 - Outside Cabin
Sailings are limited - Call  1-800-345-7576 or 812-474-6744.
Fares are cruise only, per person, based on double
occupancy, subject to availability, and do include
port taxes.  Rates are quoted in US Dollars.
Eligible interline people include the airline employee,
spouse of employee, parents or parent-in-laws
(Princess Only) of employee, retirees of the airlines,
and those guests sharing the same cabin with the eligible interline person.


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. Tail End.
Airlines are forever trying to outdo each other for business class
passengers. How about this! The description was -
'The cabin is done in an 18th century palace, with stunning decor,
fine furniture, bookcases, elegant columns, panelling and inlaid
wooden tables'.
Alas, such luxury was not being offered by an ultra-competitive
airline .. but on a B737  Boeing Business Jet.


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