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Number 496 June 23rd, 2000,  We first Published in October 1995



Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. We welcome -
Norman   Moore Customer Service Duty Manager lives in Kanata, ON
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Ray  Shea Customs Manager living in East Hawkesbury, Ont.
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Lee Donahue   recently been elected District Director for the London area
Pionairs.
(Rev.) Lee S. Donahue and Lillian  <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>


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. Need to know.
Changes in effect when listing for standby and Family Affair for self-ticketing active and retired employees only. It seems everyone is calling General Reservations! Self-ticketing active and retired employees from Air Canada, Canadian Airlines, and their respective regional carriers purchasing a Family Affair ticket or wanting to list for personal standby travel can call the local General Reservations office or the Employee Call Centre. Booking business travel and non self-ticketing activities, such as requests or changes to ZED fares, parent, or travel partner passes must be done by Employee Call Centre agents.


Employee Communications YULNNAC


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. Found on the internet.
THEY PICKED THE WRONG DAY TO WASH THE WINDOWS IN NEWARK
A parked Continental Airlines MD-80 with six cleaners aboard lurched
through a wall and glass windows at Newark International Airport
yesterday morning while two mechanics were inspecting the engines,
officials said.  Nobody was hurt.  In an unrelated incident, the movie
"Airplane!" was chosen as the 10th funniest comedy of all time by the
American Film Institute this week.


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. On June 18, 35 Air Canada employees, family members, and friends, and 30 United Airlines colleagues pedalled alongside 25,000 other participants in the 58-mile London-Brighton bike ride.
A fund-raiser for the British Heart Foundation, last year’s Air Canada team raised CA $3000—
and hopes to double that amount this year. Known as the Star Alliance Flyers, cyclists will be identified by T-shirts and baseball caps displaying the carriers’ logos. After the five-hour ride—which started at 6:30 am—riders crossing the finish line  enjoyed a BBQ on the beach and
a few libations!


Air Canada launches service from Toronto to Kelowna, BC. Air Canada’s new daily non stop service, a Canadian Airlines codeshare flight between Toronto and
Kelowna on A319 aircraft inaugurated June 19th.


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. Found on the internet.
JUST IN CASE YOU COULD STILL DISTINGUISH AN AIRLINER FROM A BUS...
If you're irritated by the cramped seats and poor service on commercial flights, you're
going to love the latest bright idea to make flying in an airliner even more like riding the
bus: ads on the overhead bins.
Advent Advertising, of Kansas City, says it's in the process of recruiting airlines and
advertisers for its "stylish, elegant" Airads product.


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. Terry's travel tips.
Dargal Interline invite you to cruise the Gulf of Alaska.....No journey is more scenic, no adventure more enthralling. Last minute dates at outstanding rates.....
1 July ~ 7 Nights ~ Sea Princess ~ Gulf of Alaska Northbound
3 July ~ 7 Nights ~ Dawn Princess ~ Gulf of Alaska Northbound
Vancouver, Inside Passage, Ketchikan, Juneau, Skagway, Glacier Bay, College Fjord,
Anchorage.  Inside $199 Includes Port Charges
3 July ~ 7 Nights ~ Sun Princess ~ Gulf of Alaska Southbound
Anchorage, College Fjord, Glacier Bay, Skagway, Juneau, Ketchikan, Inside Passage,
Vancouver. Inside $199 Includes Port Charges
Cruise for seven enchanting days to Russia, the Baltics and Scandinavia at great rates....
16 July ~ 7 Nights ~ Holland America - ms Maasdam
Stockholm, Tallinn (Estonia), St. Petersburg (Russia), Helsinki (Finland), Visby (Gotland),
Stockholm.     Inside $530   Outside $730   Port Charges of $169 additional
All rates are US$ per person, based on double occupancy and subject to availability
and eligibility. Applies to New Bookings Only.  Govt Taxes are additional.
For more information on these and other specials - contact us at:
DARGAL Interline 1-800-690-3223


Interlining Plus has these to offer -
Exotic Caribbean 14 night Inside from $969 us Ocean View  from $1409 us
Aboard the Mercury Sailing from Ft. Lauderdale to La Guaira, Venezuela
Sailing November 26, 2000
12 night La Guaira, Venezuela to Rio De Janeiro Aboard the Mercury
Inside from $1099 us Ocean View from $1599 us
Sailing December 10, 2000
BERMUDA 7 night Saturday departures from New York Aboard the Zenith (Celebrity Cruises)
Inside from $484 us Ocean View  from $585 us . 5  departures in July
CARIBBEAN  Aboard the Tropical 5 night Inside  from $335 us Ocean View from $362.50 us
Sailing from Tampa round trip August 26
PACIFIC     Aboard the Holiday 4 night Inside  from $365 us Ocean View  from $432.50 us
Sailing from Los Angeles round trip July 31 (July 24 from $385 us )
Voyageur of the Seas Western Caribbean 7 night Inside  from $675 us
Sailing from Miami round trip September 3-10-17-24 October 1-8-15
ROYAL JOURNEYS 14 night Ebony and Gold Athens to Mombasa(Greece to Africa)
Inside  from $769 us Ocean View and Balcony are both SOLD OUT
add a 3 night Safari for total of $1468 us (Post-Cruise)
Departs November 18, 2000
14 night Journey of Spice Traders Mombasa to Bombay (Africa to India)
Inside from  $769 us Ocean View  from $969 us Balcony from $1469 us
3rd/4th rates from $269 us add a 3 night Safari for a total of $1468 us (Pre-Cruise)
Departs December 02, 2000
AUSTRALIA    POSITIVE SPACE, Air Fare Air New Zealand Los Angeles to Sydney
from $629 us  Companion from $749 us
Call 1-800-665-3100 for details.


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Number 495 June 19th, 2000,  We first Published in October 1995



Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. We welcome -
Don Chidlow  Maintenance Manager lives in Elora, Ont   Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Laurelle Jones, widow of  Captain E.E.Jones can be reached at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Tom  Wright mechanic lives in Nanaimo, B.C. Email:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Carl   Sandelin Email:   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Captain lives in Cornwall, Ont.
Paul   Bolan Technician lives in Brossard, QC Email:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Anita Ivanov  will be retiring at the end of August this year after 31 years at Air Canada.
Anita can be emailed at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Email:     This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. for Abby Sones retired mechanic for CAI lives
in Kelowna, BC.
Email:   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. for Marlene  M  Warren living in Fountain Hills, Arizona
retired Flight Attendant.


Al Schuberg from CAI can be emailed at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Al Hustins of Toronto Air Canada can be reached at  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. News from the districts.
With the efforts of the Ottawa District and their Director Pat Hare and the
Montreal District with Director Pam Rosholt we are planning a gathering of the two
districts at Upper Canada Village with a luncheon at Upper Canada Golf Course on
Sept. 20th 2000 . Details of prices to follow.
Also those who do not wish to visit the village arrangements are being made for them to
play golf. For further information please contact me at
(514) 696-2964 or e mail john.rodger@sympatico,ca


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. Albert Siegmann responds to the subject of 'Renaming Dorval' -
About the renaming of Dorval Airport I must say that, despite the fact that I admire the
Rocket Maurice Richard for his performances on the ice and respect him for his life off
the ice. I disagree with the renaming of the airport to his name. He had the honor to have
a nice and large arena to his name during his life time, I would not mind at all if they
rename a street, a park or anything else to his name,but an airport please no!
If the Dorval Airport has to be renamed there are plenty of Canadian aviation pioneers
who have worked very hard to bring the Canadian Aviation to where it his now. I could
name quite a few  but I will leave that to more qualified peoples.
Incidentally I very much appreciated the story by Rob Robbins in a recent Netletter about
the origin of the Chicago O''Hare Airport name. Butch O'Hare was a real aviation hero.
Albert Siegmann     (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. )


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Danka and Conrad Karsen send us this information.
Subject: Ireland Holiday
Just back from a marvelous two weeks in County Cork, Ireland, and thought we would
pass this on.
Picked  from an ad in Horizons, we called John and Madeleine Hurley (she is a CSA at
Pearson) about renting their house on Dunworley Bay, on the south coast, West Cork.
It was really special. The house itself is fully equipped with modern European appliances,
three bedrooms, although the third is suitable for one person only. There is a living room
with a fireplace, love the smell of peat in the evening, dining area and kitchen, bath with
tub and shower and the small caravan outside holds a BBQ, lawn chairs, etc.
A firm gravel parking circle surrounds the house.
The site itself is truly spectacular, at the very end of a winding country road, high on a
cliff, overlooking Clonakilty and Dunworley Bays and surrounded by fields on the other
three sides. Green takes on a whole new meaning here. Sunsets are memorable.
It stays light until 2200 or so. Expecting rain, the weather couldn't have been better
20 May through 02 June, sunny and warm during the day and rain occasionally at night.
A special sight is the rain approaching across the Bay.
Walking in the fields or down to the beaches is a great way to spend an hour or so early
in the morning or evening. At high tides the sea is crashing on the rocks while at low the
beach is extensive. Lots of birdlife.
It's a short drive to the village of Timoleague, where there is  a centuries old abandoned
Abbey, 600 people, 6 pubs, a butcher, bakery, gas station/convenience store, post office
and an off license store for items of a liquid nature to be consumed at home.
Lots of small towns within a 40km radius, Clonakilty, Kinsale, Schull, Glandore all quaint
for sightseeing and purchases. The drive along the coast  is worth the thrill a minute
narrow roads. Cork, a small city, is about 40 minutes away and if you want to see Dublin,
the 2hr 30min train ride from Cork is the way to go. A return trip ticket is good for 5 days
although we wanted to get back to Dunworley.
Seafood was excellent, in Kinsale, and in Glandore, the Glandore Inn (dine outside
overlooking the harbour or inside if you prefer the pub atmosphere or it's raining),
the Courtyard Bar in Schull and for haute cuisine, the culinary school Ballymalloy (at
Shanagarry) reservations a must. If you leave early enough for Ballymolloy, you can
stop at Blarney Castle for that rock kissing thing. Lots of pubs in all these towns and
villages, some serve a noonish meal but few have evening fare.
Some of the pubs have entertainment in the evenings, De Barra for one, in Clonakilty.
No problems with a ZZ fare on EI, LHR-ORK-LHR once you get to LHR. A little flexible
and we had no real problem ex LHR for Canada on AC.
John and Madeleine may be reached at (remember MBRAT?) 416-622-8748
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. Terry's travel tips.
In transit through Paris?
Aubrey Winterbotham of WACA sends this -
After just having returned from Mauritius through Paris, I thought I would let your readers
know about the existence of the Cocoons at Charles de Gaulle airport.
They are located in Terminal 1 and cost 200 French francs per couple for a 12 hour stay.
It is a room with a bed, a TV set and a shower and is ideal for someone connecting with
a flight that requires a place to lie down, have a shower and put on a fresh shirt.
You are not allowed to stay more than a day or overnight, it is not a hotel.
There is free shuttle bus service between the terminals.


Visiting Europe?
The following cities fall within the 751 - 1600 mile range for ZED fares from LHR.
Athens, Belgrade, Bucharest, Budapest, Helsinki, Istanbul, Kiev, Krakow, Lisbon,
Madrid, Moscow, Naples, Riga, Rome, Sofia, St. Petersburg, Stockholm, Vienna,
Warsaw, Zagreb.
For the more ambitious, the following are within the 1601 to 3200 mile range of LHR.
Accra, Bahrain, Baku, Cairo, Dhahran, Jeddah, Kano, Kuwait, Lagos, Larnaca, Riyadh,
Tehran .


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. Smilies.
Found by your co-pilot -
Rules of the air.
Every take-off is optional.
If you push to stick forward, the houses get bigger. If you pull the stick back,
they get smaller. That is, unless you keep pulling the stick all the way back,
then they get bigger again.
The propeller is just a big fan in front of the plane used to keep the pilot cool.
When it stops, you can actually watch the pilot start sweating.
You know you have landed with the wheels up if it takes full power to taxi
to the ramp.
Helicopters can't fly, they're just so ugly the earth repels them.


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Number 494 June 13th, 2000,  We first Published in October 1995



Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. We welcome -
Doris Timmins  who  started with TCA  in Dec of' '45 in Reservations Halifax and retired
from the City Ticket Office Halifax on Jan 1/83. Email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
I am a retired Canadian Airlines Maintenance employee based at YVR
My name is Bill Wood and my E Mail is  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Maddie Youngman  retired from CAIL 3 years ago email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
George Court retired pilot with CAIL lives in Belleville, Ont.
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Brian Walsh  retired from CAIL and living in Victoria, BC
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Email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.    for   Tony Ziobroski Toronto ON  Mtce


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. Need to know.
Integrated employee travel policy news. For the peak summer period, the Family Affair program remains unchanged—it’s valid on Air Canada or Regional Carrier operated flights only, and Air Canada’s travel partner and Canadian Airlines’ guest travel programs can’t be extended on the other carrier. Effective today, boarding priority for all active employees will be based on Company service date and retired employees on length of service, rather than the current practice of time of check-in or date of registration. Air Canada and its Regional Carrier employees will travel on Canadian Airlines with an S4J6 boarding priority—the same as Canadian Airlines’ retirees with less than 25 years service. Canadian Airlines and Canadian Regional Airlines’ employees will travel on Air Canada and its Regional Carriers with a C4/Y10 boarding priority—the same as Air Canada’s Regional Carrier employees.


Changes are in effect when listing for standby and Family Affair travel. Increasing number of calls have recently added to the challenge of keeping call wait times for active and retired employees to a minimum. Effective today, active and retired employees purchasing a Family Affair ticket or wanting to list for standby travel can call the local General Reservations office or the Employee Call Centre. This initiative is part of the Call Centre’s two-year project called Call Centre Automation Initiatives.


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. From the YYZNEWS issued by Brian Dunn -


On June 5th Canadian Airlines introduced another one of their recent acquisitions to
YYZ with the appearance of another leased 767-3H5  (FIN 651)  ex ZK-NCM.
The aircraft arrived from and departed to Vancouver.
The aircraft is actually leased to Air Canada by ITOCHU AirLease, but operated by
Canadian Airlines.
After the collapse of the proposed merger between KLM and Alitalia it is now evident
that KLM is talking to British Airways about a possible merger, that would create the
world's third-largest airline.  The combined airline would be valued at more than
$7.5billion with a fleet of almost 600 aircraft.
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. Update on ACFamily.net web site from Tom Grant -
Just to let you know a new item has been added to the Airshared portion of the A-Crew and RAPCAN websites. We know some of you are new to the Internet so we thought we could help you out by having a webpage with helpful tips.


When you log onto either website you will find a separate link on the About Us page called "Internet Tips." This link will take you to a listing on "virus control", "email" and "websites of note."


Viewers are invited to make submissions to add to the tips. However, for discuss or questions you are referred to the Conference Area on the ACFamily Network website at www.acfamily.net.


The HEADLINE NEWS is a feature of the A-Crew and RAPCAN websites.
This service  was put online to complement existing email news services you receive.
It has been just over a month since we started this service.
We have been please with the response from readers so far and the time-frame for
putting news online from varied Internet sources has been met.
What is the advantage of this feature to our readers:
1. Relevant articles to our readership base such as: Canadian commercial aviation,
aviation travel, Air Canada news, and Canadi>n news. However, articles are not
limited to these areas, for example, an article relating to the Internet may be posted
if it is relevant to our readers and their use of the World Wide Web and email.
2. The postings are current as possible given the resources available to our website.
The feature is updated once, sometime three times, daily during the week depending
on the rate of relevant news that comes in.. Articles over ten days are usually deleted,
except some articles relating to Air Canada and Canadi>n that may be relevant for a
longer period of time. However, most articles will be offline after 30 days.
3.  The format is a "headline" format. In that we mean a headline is given in a listing on
the opening page. The reader can then make a decision on whether to read further.
If so, a link to a full article or abstract is given. If the link is to an abstract, there is
usually a link on that specific page to further details. And once again the reader can
decide whether or not to read more. This format saves the reader from scrolling through
lines and lines of text to see what is online.
4. The news is online 24 hours a day 7 days a week so the readers can view the
headlines at their convenience.
We do not presume to be a "wire service", more of a clipping service in a sense.
For those that would like to be inundated with news, there are innumerable services on
the Internet that one can subscribe to.
We hope you will find this website feature useful and as always your comments are
appreciated.
Tom Grant  Editor
A-Crew WWW site  www.acfamily.net/acrew
RAPCAN WWW site  www.acfamily.net/rapcan
Coming Soon CMW  WWW site www.acfamily.net/maplewings



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. Remember when?
Trans-Canada Air Lines inaugurated feeder service linking Charlottetown Airport, P.E.I.
with Moncton in April 1941 with Lockheed L10A aircraft.


Montreal to Toronto via Val d'Or with a stop at Earlton Airport, Ontario was operated
by C.P.A. in November 1952 and later taken over by T.C.A. until December 1973.


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. Found on the internet.
BRITISH AIRWAYS HOLDING TALKS WITH KLM...
In the 1990s, it was merger-mania time for the major aerospace companies, and now
it looks like this may be the decade of airline mergers.  With economic pressure in
the airline industry leading to numerous consolidations, British Airways is holding
informal merger discussions with KLM Royal Dutch Airlines.
The discussions take place amid the proposed $11.6-billion takeover of US Airways
by UAL, parent of United Airlines.


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. Help! A mayday from Jack Morath - UK



I would like information about doing a tour of the South Pacific Islands.
Any information ie where can I write to for a suggested itinerary by air to cover  the area.
Would like a package deal of some kind.  I believe that there is a price for  air travel
covering many Islands.   Is there an Airline that does this or a travel agent somewhere.
Would appreciate any thing so that I can make a start on planning.
Jack Morath     This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
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. Terry's travel tips.
Latest Air Canada schedule effective June 12th until March 31st, 2001 is available
for download on aircanada.ca web site.


Interline Plus has these offerings -
ALL- INCLUSIVE RESORT
Allegro Resort Bavaro  7 nights in Dominican Republic
from $385 us extra person from $350 us Child stay for free
Allegro Resort Bavaro Grande 7 nights in Dominican Republic
from $525 us extra person from $393.75 us Child stay for free
Caribbean Village Playa Grande 7 nights in Dominican Republic
from $395 us extra person from 393.75 us Child from $262.50 us
Jack Tar Village, Puerto Plata  7 nights in Dominican Republic
from $525 us extra person from $350 us Adult Oriented
Jack Tar Village Montego Bay 7 nights in Jamaica
from $577.50 us extra person from $455 us Adult Oriented
Jack Tar Village St-Kitts  7 nights in St-Kitts
from $489 us exXtra person $358.75 us Adult Oriented
Caribbean Village Fiesta  7 night in Costa Rica
from $489 us extra person $393.75 us Child from $262.50 us


Now through December 23rd  *** Must be booked by June 30th, 2000
CALL FOR MUCH MORE DESTINATIONS & AMAZING PRICES!
1-800-665-3100


Dargal The Interline Agency to the World has this for us -
The good life aboard Star Clipper. Sail 7 nights to the Grenadine Isles
Departs Barbados calling at Martinique, St. Lucia, Bequia, Tobago Cays,
Grenada and Grenadines.
Rate from us$695 pp dbl plus port fees
valid July 2, 16, 30; Aug 13, 17; Sept 10 and 24th.
How about the Orient Express?
Departs July 6th or August 3rd.
15 days from Beijing to Moscow. An exceptional travel experience.
The train is owned and operated by a Swiss company and offers lectures both
educational and informal discussions aboard the train.
The carriages are the opriginal built in the 1920's and 30's and beautifully restored.
us$6,299 pp dbl includes airfare.
The best of Britian!
Touring 14 days from London visiting Salisbury, Looe, Plymouth, Bristol,
Clayton-le-Moors, Lake District, Glasgow, Loch Lomond, Fort William,
Grantown, Hoghlands, a Skye Excursion, Edinburgh, York, Stratford,
Coventry, Bladon, Oxford and back to London.
From ca$2042 pp dbl
Call 1-800-690-3223 for details.


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. Smilie.


I GUESS I SHOULDA SAID "HELLO, JACK" INSTEAD:
A simple greeting to a man named Jack on a bizjet caused an uproar at Oakland
International Airport outside Detroit, Mich., on Monday.  "There was a guy on the
plane named Jack, and someone walked in and said, 'Hi, Jack,'" police Lt. Rick Crigger
said.  "The mike just happened to be open and the tower heard it."  Thinking someone
might be hijacking the corporate jet, controllers called in the local police and SWAT
team.


Back in the days before altitude alerters were mandatory, but with
altitude reporting installed, a crew was climbing their BAC 1-11 up to
an assigned altitude of 17,000 feet.  At about 17,700 feet, the pilot
flying noticed the inadvertent altitude bust and started back down
towards 17,000.


Just as he was getting ready to level off, ATC called: "NXXXXX, say
your altitude."


The fast-thinking captain replied, "Just passing through 17,000."


Whereupon the faster-thinking controller asked, "Which way?"


Janet     Grunwald -Polasek sends this groaner!
Q: What is a terminal illness?
A: When you are sick at the airport.


and from Albert Sorignet
hangers are for coats and hangars are for airplanes.


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Number 493  June 10th, 2000,  We first Published in October 1995



Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson   -      Co-pilot  - Terry Baker


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. Need to know.


We received this information from Industry Travel to clarify priorities on CP which was the
subject of a previous NetLetter -


All AC retired employees are processed on an S4J6 priority, same as
AC active employees when travelling on CP.  S4J6 is the priority
given to CP retired employees with less than 25 years of service.


CP policy gives a better priority to their active employees and
retirees with 25 years+ of service.  We will all go after them in
the same manner as they will ALL be carried on C4/Y10 basis while
we travel with C2/Y10, regardless whether their retirees have 25
years or less.


It is unfortunate of course that this can cause an impact on the
routes no longer operated by AC.  However, on the new AC routes, we
will be boarded BEFORE THEM.


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. Nice to know.
Ray Steven sends this query -
In an Employee Travel letter, dated December 1999, Vicki Benoit, Manager,
Industry Travel, specifically item 11, entitled Future Projects, outlined
future improvements to Air Canada's travel programs. In this item, she states
- "By the year-end, Air Canada employees and retirees wishing to register
space available travel will be able to use a voice activated system called
"Speech Recognition". This system can be used to register for flights as well
as check flight schedules and obtain load information".


I was wondering whether this project is on schedule and will be available by
"year-end 2000", and whether one will be able to use a touchtone telephone,
with prompts, to access the information on loads, be able to list and/or
cancel listings, as is common with other carriers systems?
Ray Stevens,  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.   Retired AC Employee #87226


Industry travel informs us -
The Employee Call Centre in collaboration  with Industry Travel will be implementing this
fall (instead of summer) the Speech Recognition system that will permit all active
and retired employees (who can self-ticket T421 trip pass tickets) to register for flights as
well as cancel listings, check flight schedules and obtain load information.
When it comes closer to implementation time, all active and retired employees, including
widows/ers will receive a communication  package including their PIN number to access
this system.


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. From Bob Robbins -
A thousand thanks for your NetLetter dedicated to the memory of Jim Bain.
I thought you might enjoy what you caused in me!  Thanks again, guys, for the joys
you bring to me.
Ken Denman,  ex-Sales in TCA/AC also enjoys reading each issue.
Bob sent this personal message to Alan Bain, and kindly gave permission for us to include
it in a NetLetter -
"Hello Alan
What a delightful contribution you made to the Netletter!
Many thanks for making it available to so many of the people whose lives were touched
(or more!) by your Dad.
I joined TCA in 1940 as a radio operator, and then as Station Manager at several points.
The last one was at the Montreal  Trans-Atlantic terminal.  In the early fifties I was
loaned to the Management Development Group for "two years" -- and stayed in training
and organization development assignments until taking early retirement in ''72.
One of those assignments was to work with Jim and his management team during and
after the period of McKim's organization development consulting.  We came to know each
other very well, often sharing thoughts and wishes of personal nature.
I remember that for some time he wished he had a Rolls Royce automobile, and finally
settled for a Bentley.   I got a kick out of his pride in giving me a ride in it. How I wish I
could have given him the keys to try out my recently-acquired Lexus -- the latest in a
series of Toyotas!
After retiring from AC, I worked in the Federal Government in Ottawa for eight years -
doing much similar work to that in AC's.
I hope you and yours are healthy and happy.
Sincerely"
Robert M. Robbins       This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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. Our Chief pilot sends this -
Subject: Dorval Airport rename
I think I heard on TV that the citizens of Montreal want to rename
Dorval International Airport
to
Maurice (Rocket) Richard International Airport.
They have my vote.
And I worked there from 1953 to 1970 and loved every moment, rain or freezing
rain, snow or snowbound.   And of course, I was a 'Rocket' fan.
I didn't know how much I cared til I watched his funeral last week.
I hope a lot of our readers will agree to the name change.


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. Nice to know.
Air Canada inaugurates daily non-stop services Vancouver-Denver (Colorado) and
Vancouver-Washington Dulles (D.C.).
The  new services are also offered on a codeshare basis by Canadian Airlines and
United Airlines.
Flights on the new routes will be operated with Air Canada 112-seat A319
aircraft featuring the airline's acclaimed Executive and Hospitality service.
Air Canada flight AC694 (CP3694/UA3206) leaves Vancouver at noon and
arrives in Denver at 3:40 p.m.
From Denver, AC693 (CP3693/UA3208) leaves at 9:15 a.m. and arrives in Vancouver
at 11:09 a.m.
Air Canada flight AC696 (CP3696/UA3190) leaves Vancouver at 2:10 p.m. and
arrives in Washington (Dulles) at 10:00 p.m.
From Washington, AC695 (CP3695/UA3192) leaves at 8:50 a.m. and arrives in
Vancouver at 11:15 a.m.


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. Charles  Mackie sends this information -
Greetings to all,
This is to notify you of our next Vancouver Island Chapter Meeting of the Canadian
Aviation Historical Society.
It will be held at the BC Aviation Museum in the Norseman Room at 14:00
on Tuesday June 13th. We are also  holding a Luncheon at Marys Coffee Bar at 12:30 noon
and all are invited.
Come and get to know your fellow aviations Buffs, and exchange stories and
adventures of the past.
Dont for get to wear an identificatioon tag if you have one.
Our speaker will be Elwood White  from Shawnigan Lake and he will be giving a slide
presentation.
To help defray cost there will be a $2.00 Fee collected at the Museum door for all who
are not members of the BC Aviation Museum.
Come and bring a friend Male or Female Young or Old, as long as they have any
interest in Canadian Aviation History.
See You there
Charles Charles J. L. Mackie, Pres. of Vancouver Island Chapter of the CAHS
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. Tom Grant, editor of acfamily.net/acrew sends this -
Last week I took a low flying (aka car) trip from Vancouver to Regina. Enroute I had the
pleasure of visiting the Nanton Lancaster Society air museum in Nanton AB (about a hour
south of Calgary on hwy 2). I suggest that anyone who finds themselves in southern
Alberta to drop by and view this great display of memorabilia and the static display of great
aircraft. The centrepiece is the Lancaster bomber.
For complete information have a look at their website www.lexicom.ab.ca/~nanton
Nanton Lancaster Society: Honouring all those associated with Bomber Command in
WWII. Aircraft emphasis on the Lancaster.
The town hosts over a half dozen antique shops! www.antiquewalk.com )
-Tom Grant, editor WWW A-Crew


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. Where are they now?


CanJet Airlines Corporation has appointed Mark Winders as Chief Operating Officer.
Mr. Winders was formally with Air Canada and has spent over 30 years in the airline
industry.
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. From the YYZNEWS issued by Brian Dunn-


Skyservice Airlines announced on May 31st that effective in November this year they
will switch over to become a scheduled airline.   They will install a 2-class seating
arrangement in their A320s and A330 aircraft and connect major cities across Canada.
They are expected to announce which major airline and airline alliance group they will be
joining up with and speculation is rampant that it will be the oneWorld alliance
organization.   They will also announce a new name for this airline.  This would help to
provide feed traffic for both American Airlines and British Airways throughout Canada.
The airline is planning to connect Halifax in the east with Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto,
Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary, and Vancouver.
They will also fly to select U.S.A. cities, but none were named.


JetBlue Airlines, the new startup at New York JFK has been talking to the Air Canada Technical Operations people about long-term A320 maintenance requirements.
JetBlue hope to have a large fleet of A320s in service within their first couple of years.





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. From the RAPCAN newsletter issued by Duane Frerichs -
From: Henderson <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
I have just returned from YVR and stayed at the Fraser Arms Hotel,just off
the airport on Marine Drive West.It used to be only a beer joint,they have
refurbished it and the rooms are clean and quiet.They give Air Canada an
excellent rate.Double room with a full breakfast is 45 dollars plus the
usual taxes.It is handy and the price is right. My wife and I would go there
anytime we go to YVR.There is an airport shuttle too.The 800 number is
804-2888 and local is 261-2499.Cheers Bill


Australian Association of Retired Airline Pilots (excerpts)


You have probably heard about the famous 617 Squadron Dambuster's raid,
which blew up one of the dams on a German river.  A so-called "bouncing
bomb" invented by Barnes Wallis did this. What is generally not known is his
reading of the exploits of a crew of 635 Squadron that gave him the idea.
It happened this way:-
We were in our Lancaster, T for Tommy, getting near our target with a full
bomb load, flying through a lot of flak. Over the Ruhr a piece of flak went
through the starboard under-carriage door and blew out a tyre.  We were near
the target and all pretty busy, but Len our pilot came on the intercom and
said "Chuck, you've got nothing to do for the next little while, I'll lower
the undercart, you go out and change the tyre. (Chuck was our wireless op.)
So Chuck reeled in his trailing antenna, tied the end around his waist,
grabbed the spare tyre, put it around his neck, climbed down under Willie
our Flight Engineer, and went through the front turret.
Now Chuck, using the tire iron which was part of the Lanc repair kit, pried
the blown tyre of the rim and let it fall. Then with the spare in position
around the rim, he signaled for Len to roll the Lanc violently to port,
which literally jammed the new tyre on the rim. Geoff, our navigator went to
Chuck's position and reeled in the antenna, bringing Chuck back in through
the front turret.
It was only later, when the damage report came back out of Germany that we
found out what had happened. When the blown tyre landed it was upright on
the Frieden river reservoir, and this together with its forward speed caused
it to bounce and roll along the full length of the reservoir on top of the
water, knocking out a dam control tower and its ack ack crew at the end. The
tyre ended up in the Frieden river some 100 ft below.


When he heard this Barnes Wallis immediately saw the possibility of using a
bomb like this on German dams and set to work to perfect it. The famous
Dambuster's raid was the result. He was not aware of the squadron or crew
who had done the op in the first place, which had given him the idea, so 635
Squadron and us were never given credit.
Actually, as this was a RAF station, because we didn't bring the spare tyre
back after signing out, we were accused of loosing it and stores got its
cost added to our bar bill.  This left us so impoverished we had to survive
on NAAFI beer for a month.
You can be decisive, derisive, and dismissive or any other "did" but the
author doesn't want to know.




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. For the Vickers Viscount affectionados -
During the late 1970s, Alidair at East Midlands Airport acquired a large number of ex-Canadian Viscounts and refurbished them either for their own use or for resale.
Viscount 757 had originally been CF-TIF with Trans-Canada Air Lines (c/n 386) but, by
October 1978  had become 9Q-CPY being delivered to Zaire Aero Service, Kinshasa.
It lasted barely 3 years there, and was withdrawn from use at Ndola (the domestic airport at
Kinshasa) in 1981.


The last 700-series Viscount in service in the UK. G-BDRC (c/n 52) was a Viscount 724 built in 1955 as CF-TGO for Trans-Canada Air Lines. It then became F-BMCG with Air Inter from 1964 to 1975, G-BDRC with Alidair ( wearing the titles of their subsidiary Guernsey Airlines, with whom it was named "Sarnia II" ), and was sold to Janus Airways in 1984.  In 1986 it was withdrawn from use and dumped at the Manston (Kent) Fire School, finally being cleared for scrap in August 1993.


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. Bob Robbins tells us that  a group of Pionairs has been rounded up by
Jess  Rougeau, the next District Director of Ottawa area Pionairs.
They're off next week on a two week bus tour of Denmark, Norway and Sweden.
They'll be in the majority of the bus riders.
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. Terry's travel tips.
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Phone (905) 227-0891 or 1-888-292-5096   Fax (905) 227-3720
Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.   http://www.gardensmotel.com
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. Smilie.
Two members of the Lothian and Borders traffic police were out on the Berwickshire
moors with a radar gun recently, happily engaged in apprehending speeding motorists,
when their equipment suddenly locked up completely with an unexpected reading of well
over 300mph. The mystery was explained seconds after  as a low flying Harrier hurtled
over their heads. The 'boys in blue' were upset at the damage to their radar gun and put in
a complaint to the RAF, but were somewhat chastened when the RAF pointed out that
the damage may well have been more severe. The Harrier's target acquisition computer
had locked on to the 'enemy' radar and triggered an automatic retaliatory air-to-surface
missle attack. Luckily, the Harrier was operating unarmed.






Announcement by the flight attendant -
'In the unlikely event that we make it as far as a body of water before we crash, you can
use your complimentary snack to repel sharks'.


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