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Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson
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Co-pilot - Terry Baker
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Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
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Number 397 Date August 17th, 1999 BYN 1st Published in October 1995
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. DID YOU KNOW?
You can read or retrieve back issues of the BYN?
Just visit our web site at:
http://www.acfamily.net/between
and click on the "Archives" button.
This area is only open to "BETWEEN YOURSELVES - NetLetter" subscribers
and you will need the following password to enter -
User Name: byn Password: vesta
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. We welcome some more retirees -
Guenther (Gordie) Bauer email
was an Avionics Lead Mechanic
Neil Rix retired Telecomms Engineering Technician living in
Pierrefonds, QC. email is
Edric Sims email is
Cust. Sales and Service Agent and lives in YVR.
Bob Belding retired from C & SS Dorval lives in Pierrefonds, QC
Morris Rambout retired Lead Station Attendant lives in Brampton, ON
email:
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. Where are they now?
Jack Dahlgren is now located on
Cec and Arlene McCulloch have moved ISP. Try them on
Bob Dechaux has changed his ISP too. Now on
Bernard Desanlis is now at
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. Robert Brown has passed the latest info from Captain Alan Macloed -
Subject: LOCKHEED UPDATE CF_TCC
Lockheed Update. August 17th.
"Tango Charlie Charlie" departed Winnipeg on Aug. the 9th. We stopped in
Assiniboia for fuel and to see Air Canada's friend Harry Whereat and his
aircraft collection. We flew from Assiniboia to Calgary, arriving at 8PM.
Remained overnight in Calgary.
On the 10th Calgary weather was ceiling of 300 feet overcast and
visibility of half a mile. However the conditions through the mountains
were excellent. We (Capt. Patry and I ) filed an "instrument flight
rules" (I.F.R.) flight plan from Calgary to Lethbridge and departed
about 9AM. Thirty minutes out of Calgary the weather was clear with
unlimited visibility so we canceled our flight plan (IFR),
and refiled a "visual flight plan" and proceeded throughout the Crow's
Nest Pass then over Fernie, past Cranbrook, Nelson and on to Penticton.
Uplifted gas there and then flew from Penticton to Victoria.
The aircraft was on display in Victoria from the 13th through the 15th.
We flew five trips on the 13th and had local dignitaries, MP, newspaper
and radio and TV station folks on board. this was all in support of the
60th Anniversary of the airport at Victoria. Celebrations are on going
all summer.
Many retired Air Canada and Canadian Airways folk came and visited the
aircraft. Mr. Dick Leigh, retired superintendent of maintenance,
Air Canada was there to visit "Tango Charlie Charlie" who he knew
from 1937. Dick had an album of photos which showed CF-TCA, CF-TCB
and CF-TCC.
He recalled the day in November 4, 1937 when TCC stopped in Lethbridge
enroute to Winnipeg on its initial delivery flight from Lockheed in
California.
On Monday 16th, we took TCC to Vancouver where she is in the hangar
there being groomed and polished, compliments of the line maintenance
manager Bob Brown, in preparation for DREAMS TAKE FLIGHT flying on the
18th, 19th, 20th and 21st., from the Air Canada hangar.
Come out and see the Lockheed.
Following DREAMS flying in Vancouver, Tango Charlie Charlie will proceed
to Calgary for the weekend of the 25th, 26th, 27th and 28th.
That's it for now.. Alan MacLeod
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. What's on today and Where is it? compiled by Vesta.
Wednesday August 18, 1999
BurOak Pionairs Grp, 10:30am at Mother Tuckers Market
Place, QEW South Service Rd between Walkers's and Guelph
lines Burlington Ontario
St Catherine AC Retirees & Pionairs meet at 10am Sweets and
Crepes Cafe, Ontario St & Lakeport.
Contact Colin Bailey 935-3970
Thursday August 19, 1999
Kingston/OttawaPionairs Lunch with Aunt Lucy's on Princess St
Kingston is the place, the time is 11:30 and cost $15.pp
London UK - TV Show at Teddington Studios to see the recording of
a new comedy show called 'Starting Out' cost free.
Richmond, CF-TCC Scenic Tours from Air Canada 747 YVR Hanger
5530 Miller Rd, Richmond. Reserve your $100 seat. For the
benefit of 'Dreams Take Flight' for special needs children
604-813-6165 or fax 604303-3783
Friday August 20, 1999
Ottawa, AC retirees & Pionairs KoffeeKlatsches weekly at 10 am
Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
Richmond, CF-TCC Scenic Tours from Air Canada 747 YVR Hanger
Saturday August 21, 1999
Richmond, CF-TCC Scenic Tours from Air Canada 747 YVR Hanger
Sunday August 22, 1999
Montreal 9th Multiple Sclerosis Bike Tour 75km or 2-day
150km Wheel Spin associated with Tour de I'lle de Montreal
information Lorraine Denis 514-849-7591ex234.
Richmond, CF-TCC Scenic Tours from Air Canada 747 YVR Hanger
Monday August 23, 1999
Montreal 9th Multiple Sclerosis Bike Tour 75km
or 2-day 150km Wheel Spin.
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. Bill Fisher sends in this information -
Subject: British Columbia Aviation Museum - Victoria.
This Saturday, 21 August, is the annual open house and hangar dance at
the aviation museum.
The doors open at 09:00, with a pancake breakfast, and close at 16:00
In the evening there is the hangar dance featuring the Swiftsure Big
Band playing the music of the war years from 20:00 to 23:00.
This year the event is also honouring the 60th anniversary of the
Victoria airport which was called R.C.A.F. Station Pat Bay in those days.
Admission to the open house is by donation and tickets for the dance are
$15.00 each and must be bought before 18:00 on the day.
NO tickets are sold at the door.
Also there will be a ribbon cutting ceremony officially opening the
extention to the hangar at 14:00.
How to get there? - Well take the Airport turn (McTavish RD) off
Pat Bay Hwy, then right on Canora Rd to the museum
drive - and follow the crowds!
Bill Fisher
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. In response to our recent article re 'pooch passports' in
NetLetter nr 393 Cliff Jones-Cassidy sends us this -
In response to this news item, (certainly not in defense of it!!!!) may
I add some background information. This may elevate the editor's fear
from "big brother is watching" to "stupid big brother is watching".
For decades Great Britain has deemed it necessary to incarcerate pets
being brought into the UK in a six month quarantine program. This was
to prevent the spread of rabies from 'foreign' animals to the island
nation. Since its inception, lo those many years ago, not one
quarantined animal has been found to be suffering from rabies.
Obviously therefore, none of these pets would have been responsible for
the transmission of the disease to any other animal in the UK. It must
be noted also that British pets taken out of the country for any length
of time (even an afternoon's wine run to Bruges) were also subject to
the six month quarantine when they returned to England. The quarantine
program does not include animals escaping into the country from any of
the ships unloading food cargo at any of the ports of call around
England, or currently off any of the food-carrying trucks arriving
in the UK through the 'Chunnel'.
As more and more Britons chose to travel abroad, more and more bemoaned
the quarantine idiocy, to the point where the complaints eventually
reached the European Court in Belgium. After much to-ing and fro-ing,
it has been decided to implement the above noted 'Doggie Passport' as
well as a 'phase-in-program' to eventually eliminate the quarantine law.
The only reason for the phase-in is to protect the livelihood of those
running the quarantine kennels. Dare I call these kennels a very
lucrative 'cash-cow'?
For those of you planning to retire to the running of a pub in Torquay,
you will ultimately be able to take your Canadian pooch with you but
don't hold your breath unless you can do so for at least several years.
Cliff Jones-Cassidy in Beautiful Muskoka
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. Margaret Cantwell has found a couple of stories for us -
One is from the Silver Anniversary issue of "Between Ourselves"
April 10th. 1962.
On page 15 it shows a picture of three people and the caption underneath
says: " One of the longest tickets issued for an individual in the
history of the Vancouver Office is delivered by Sale Representative
Bruce Hay and Passenger Agent Joan Patterson.
The customer is E. Gordon Shafter whose ticket includes 45 TCA
stopovers, plus a few on other lines. Shafter is traveling across
Canada with the Masonic Lodge."
The second item is from the Vancouver Sun Thursday, October 9, 1980
There are photos which show one of our Air Canada Cargo Jets and the
caption is....."Dragging One foot for a landing.
An Air Canada cargo jet lands at Vancouver International Airport with
it's landing gear twisted sideways by a broken bolt.
After circling for 90 minutes, the plane touched down gingerly and the
wheels popped back into place for a safe roll-out. The three-man
crew reported the problem with the right main landing gear after taking
off from Edmonton bound for Los Angeles.
Authorities diverted the stricken plane to Vancouver where it was
surrounded by emergency equipment after landing. However, Air Canada
spokesmen said the pilot made a perfect landing as the landing gear
aligned itself when the jet touched down" It does not give the names
of the crew unfortunately.
Cheers....Margaret Cantwell
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On August 3rd, Air Canada touched down at Washington-National and
celebrated its 50th trans border route with its first flight from Ottawa.
This new CRJ service links the two airports with non-stop flights
every business day, complementing our current service between Ottawa
and Washington Dulles.
Vietnam Airlines plans to keep its fleet on the ground at
midnight, December 31, 1999. Fearing Y2K problems, it wants to avoid
any millennium bug snags.
Nikolai the bull elephant goes to Frankfurt. Last month, a very
special seven-year old pachyderm boards AC872 from Toronto to
Frankfurt in the main deck of our B-747-400 combi. Weighing in at
almost 3,300 lbs., Nikolai is in a crate that weighs nearly 3,000 lbs.
A stroll down memory lane. On July 31, 1995, we began non-stop service
between Ottawa and Chicago. On August 1, 1966, service was inaugurated
to Miami from Toronto and Montreal. On the same day in 1981, our Cargo
colleagues went metric to comply with the federal government's
national metric program.
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. Terry's travel tips.
FAMILY AFFAIR
Some Pionairs are not aware they could use Family Affair trips themselves.
They knew they could use them for family members. So we would remind
you that retirees can also use them.
Dargal Interline -
Why not try an adventure in Paradise!
6 Oct ~ 12 Nights ~ Regal Princess
Honolulu, Maui, Kauai, Hilo, At Sea, Christmas Island
At Sea, Bora Bora;Moorea/French Polynesia, Papeete
Inside $719.00
Or choose one of these holiday sailings!
19 Dec ~ 7 Nights ~ Dawn Princess
San Juan, St. Thomas, St. Kitts, St. Maarten, St. Lucia
Barbados, At Sea, San Juan
Inside $574.00
21 Dec ~ 7 Nights ~ Sun Princess
San Juan, St. Maarten, St. Lucia, Barbados, St. Kitts
St. Thomas, San Juan
Inside $474.00
And there's always Beautiful Bermuda!
Just pick the date.....
5, 12, 17, 26 Sept & 3 Oct ~ 7 Nights ~ Royal Caribbean Nordic Empress
New York, At Sea, St. George's, Hamilton, At Sea, New York
Inside $439.00 Ocean View $539.00
All rates are US$ per person, based on double occupancy
and subject to availability and eligibility. New bookings only.
Port charges/Govt fees are additional.
For more information on this and other specials - contact us at:
DARGAL Interline 1-800-690-3223
Great Britain Sampler Motorcoach Tour from $999us$
Friday and Sunday Departures Thru Oct 31, 1999
GREAT BRITAIN SAMPLER MOTORCOACH TOUR INCLUDES:
Round-trip space available air transportation, 7 days/5 nights hotel
accommodations with private bath, continental breakfast in London, full
English breakfast and dinner in England while on the motorcoach,
sightseeing tours, all hotel taxes and service charges.
Scottish Masterpiece Motorcoach Tour from $999us$
Wednesday Departures Thru Oct 31, 1999
SCOTTISH MASTERPIECE MOTORCOACH TOUR INCLUDES:
Round-trip space available air transportation, 7 days/5 nights hotel
accommodations with private bath, continental breakfast in London, full
English breakfast and dinner in England while on the motorcoach, full
Scottish breakfast and dinner in Scotland while on the motorcoach,
sightseeing tours, all hotel taxes and service charges.
Great Britain Fly/Drive Vacation from $579us$
Departures Any Day Thru Oct 31, 1999
GREAT BRITAIN FLY/DRIVE VACATION INCLUDES:
Round-trip interline air transportation, 5 nights hotel accommodations
with private bath, breakfast daily and rental car with unlimited mileage
(Category A). Upgrades available.
For More Information About These or Other Vacations Call
1-800-935-9444. Fax 314-968-9568.
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. That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
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Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson
http://www.acfamily.net/between/vesta/
Co-pilot - Terry Baker
http://www.acfamily.net/between/terry/
Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
http://www.acfamily.net
Number 396 Date August 15th, 1999 BYN 1st Published in October 1995
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. Need to know.
Travel embargo to St, John's, NF, on Air Canada and Air Nova flights
in August. Effective immediately, all positive space travel other than
aircraft on ground (AOG) and crew movement will not be permitted
between St. John's and Halifax in August. All positive space business
travel and personal travel including ID80, ID50, and promotional
tickets are included in the embargo, except tickets purchased before
August 10. Active and retired employees, family members, and travel
partners travelling standby should make alternate travel plans prior
to leaving home base.
Be prepared to make alternate arrangements if you're travelling
through the UK. Strong bookings over the Atlantic might mean denied
boardings. Employees should buy tickets on other carriers before
leaving home base. Employees and travel partners are responsible
for additional costs incurred if denied boarding.
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. Welcome to
Robert Cleroux retired Cafeteria Manager lives in Fabreville, Laval, QC
email:
Email to
works in Winnipeg as Air Canada Vice President flight operations.
Mary Kirk living in Windsor, On. Email:
Ben Van Ryswyk retired Lead Mechanic lives in Dollard des Ormeaux, QC
email:
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. Where are they now?
Herbert Young is going to handle messages for:
Murray Phipps, Frank Stevens, Steve (S.I.) Clark who also reside
in Comox BC. Send emails in care of Herbert Young.
Len Kruller has changed his email to
Bernard Desanlis is now at
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. Deja-vous!
With the recent announcement by the government which will allow
Canadi>n Airlines to enter into discussions with other airlines
Margaret Cantwell sends us this article from
'Horizons' dated Mar 30th 1979 -
I thought that as we are hearing on the news and in the paper
to-day about Air Canada and a possible "merger" and their desire to get
Canadian and with West Jet, I thought the following little item from
Horizons dated March 30, 1979 might be of interest.
It is as follows:
"We're ready and more than willing to meet the stepped-up competition",
said the President Claude Taylor in reacting to the recently announced
decision by Minister of Transport, Otto Lang, to remove all restrictions
on CP Air's participation in transcontinental air routes. "We've reached
the stage where an orderly transition is in order and we are mature and
efficient enough to stand on our own without protection." The President's
message on page three followed up at length on this.
I find it very interesting as it is just what they are saying to-day about
lifting restrictions. I also found it interesting as my son Robert is with
Canadian Airlines and is dealing with this sort of thing !
Cheers for now...Margaret
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. News from the districts.
From the London England monthly newsletter -
Upcoming events:
Aug 19 - TV Show at Teddington Studios.
To see the recording of a new comedy show called
'Starting Out'. Cost: Free.
Sept 7 - Visit to Ypres, the city and cemeteries.
Leaves Heathrow Park Hotel at 6:30 in a 44 seater coach
Travel will be through the 'Chunnel'.
Full passport required. Cost: GBP20.00 pp.
Sept 20 - In conjunction with ACRA visit to see the show
'Whistle down the wind' Cost:25.00 pp includes coach.
Sept 29/30 - Visit to Vancouver, BC
This is now finalised with hotel booked at the
Vancouver Airport Travelodge. Supper will be in the
restaurant adjacent on the 30th. Any AC/TCA retirees in
the Vancouver area are most welcome to join the visitors.
Oct TBA - In conjuction with ACRA visit to see the show
'Disney on ice'. Details to follow.
Dec 5 - Christmas lunch.
Venue is the Heathrow Park Hotel at 13:00 cost is
GBP12.50 pp. Specially priced overnight accommodation at
GBP22.50 twin or GBP25.50 double.
Recently, the UK group visited the Heathrow Airport Visitor Centre,
the RAF Uxbridge and Syon House and Ellen Baker, wife of John Baker
Director UK Pionairs, gives us her impressions (some editting) -
On the 7th July we started off with a quick tour of the airport.
Did you know that the Taxi Park holds 500 cabs and every time a cab
leaves the Park they are charged GBP2.00 and told which terminal to
report to, so don't ask for any short trips!
A quick look around the displays telling how the 1946 Heathrow has
grown into an international airport with 92 airlines, 200 destinations
handling 60 million passengers a year.
RAF Uxbridge was the next stop, I was rather apprehensive at going
70 feet below ground. We had a run through of how the Battle of Britain
was fought, with the original plotting table and controllers viewing
room still intact. We saw a 30 minute video film of the Battle, plus
the bombing of London. There was also a museum which we visited.
Next to Syon House, built in 1539 and remodeled in 1760 by Robert Adam
and is now owned by the Duke of Northumberland. I was asked if this was
my first visit to the house and I told the ladies behind the admission
desk that, as a 17 year old student nurse at the nearby West Middlesex
Hospital, I actually lived in the house. To my amazement, the ladies
had read about us in the family history book. After checking that the
Duke
had left the house, the Assistant Head Housekeeper gave John and I a
tour of the private rooms, where I had stayed. During my time there we
were
always cold, the only heating was a small gas fire in an old nursery
which was our sitting room. There were bars on the windows, still there,
very little hot water but a bath which was so large that 3 could climb
in together. Huge curtains in the corridors would sway with the drafts and
frighten us when we took the long walk to the toilet. The bedrooms and
corridors now have central heating, and the curtains long gone.
I found the nursery and the big bath and then found the toilet, which
was one of the few remaining 'thunder-box' type left in use. Behind the
box was a hatch door in the wall and I said 'if I remove the door you
would find a ladder fixed to the wall leading to the roof'. 'Now I know
you used to live here' said the Housekeeper, 'no one else would know
that'. The ladies were thrilled to have met someone who had lived there.
I just wish I could still wriggle up that ladder!
From the Summer edition of the newsletter by Ottawa Pionairs -
As the district for Ottawa extends from Belleville to Cornwall, it is
recognised the difficulty for many living at the western end of this
territory to attend luncheons in Ottawa, so the next luncheon has been
scheduled for Kingston -
Thursday August 19th is the date, Aunt Lucy's on Princess Street,
Kingston is the place, the tine is 11:30 and cost $15.00 pp.
Contact Bruce Wannamaker at (613) 521-1838 for more details.
Saturday Oct 16th is the next event at The Mill, 555 Ottawa Parkway
Cost:16.00 pp time 11:30 DEADLINE Oct 6th. Call Bruce for details.
Saturday December 4th is the Christmas Luncheon at the Mill, time 11:30
Cost TBA, DEADLINE Nov 25th. Call Bruce for details.
Every Friday morning we hold coffee klatches 10:00 - 11:00 at the
Family Restaurant, Collingwood Shopping Centre, Ottawa.
Alexandria Ontario Pionairs meet the second Wednesday of each month,
Call Cam Evans (613)224-6469 or Graham Richardson (613)874-2850
Any Air Canada/TCA retirees and/or spouses are welcome to any Pionair
event.
Come and meet previous work people and chat about old times.
Graham Richardson has taken the position of Assistant Director in
the Ottawa Pionair district.
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. Found on the internet.
PC PILOTS CAN EARN VIRTUAL "LICENSE":
Don't have the time or money to earn a pilot's license?
The Aero-Club de France has just the answer for you. The Aero-Club is
issuing the first "licenses" for virtual pilots on the Web.
"Student" pilots earn a "private" license after completing a series of exams
and missions via the Internet. Participants are eligible to win prizes such
as a flight on the Concorde and real flight lessons upon the completion of
either phase of training. The first phase is up and running on the Aero-Club
site: http://www.aeroclub.com
AIR-RAGE ROVER?
We've heard many stories of unruly airline passengers trying to damage
planes, and now it seems even man's best friend is getting in on the act.
An Irish wolfhound managed to free itself from a cage in the cargo area
during a recent UAL flight and chewed up wiring in the cargo area, affecting
cockpit warning systems and flap operation on the 767.
United said the pilot was able to land the plane safely, and when luggage
handlers opened the cargo door, they found Rover happily wagging his tail.
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. Terry's travel tips.
Rumour has it that the Toronto-Victoria-Toronto flights will be
discontinued effective September.
Canadian Interline Travel offer these cruises -
Royal Princess - December 5/99
14 nights Cape Horn/Strait of Magellan
Sailing from Santiago to Buenos Aires
Inside $779.00USD, pp dbl
plus $120.00USD Port charges and Government Taxes per person
Royal Princess - November 18/99
17 nights Andes/South America
Sailing from Ft. Lauderdale to Santiago
Inside from $839.00USD, pp dbl plus $160USD Port charges pp
Holland America ms Maasdam - August 29/99
7 nights Big Band Transatlantic
Sailing from London to Boston
Inside from $350.00USD, pp dbl. Outside from $450.00USD, pp dbl
TO CONTACT CANADIAN INTERLINE TRAVEL
Toll Free..........: (800) 665-3100
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. Smilie.
Your co-pilot sends this thought -
Everyone seems to be preoccupied with the Y2K problem, but there may be a
wake-up call when September 9th 1999 rolls around! Numerically this
would be stored as 9999 - sometimes used, on earlier programs, to seek the
end of a file being read.
AMERICA WEST PILOT NEEDS TO SHED A FEW POUNDS:
A recent America West flight from Phoenix, Ariz., to Austin, Texas, was
delayed after the captain had to be replaced because he was too large for
the seat belt.
A spokeswoman for America West Airlines confirmed the story and said,
as far as she knew, it was the first time the airline had experienced such
a delay. "From what they're telling me, on this particular aircraft,
the seat belt happens to be a little bit smaller," she said.
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. That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
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Co-pilot - Terry Baker
http://www.acfamily.net/between/terry/
Mailing of this "NetLetter" is courtesy of Alan Rust
administrator of the "AC Family Network" at:
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Number 395 Date August 11th, 1999 BYN 1st Published in October 1995
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. What's on today and Where is it?
Compiled by Vesta -
Friday August 13, 1999
Victoria Airport, Air Canada CF-TCC aircraft pays courtesy
call in conjunction with 60th Anniversary Celebrations of
Victoria Airport, displayed at BC Aviation Museum.
Ottawa, AC retirees & Pionairs KoffeeKlatsches weekly at 10 am,
Family Restaurant, Carlingwood Shopping
Saturday August 14, 1999
Victoria Airport, Air Canada CF-TCC aircraft pays courtesy
call in conjunction with 60th Anniversary Celebrations of
Victoria Airport, displayed at BC Aviation Museum.
Saskatoon, SK Canada Remembers International Air Show
Sunday August 15, 1999
Victoria Airport, Air Canada CF-TCC aircraft pays courtesy
call in conjunction with 60th Anniversary Celebrations of
Victoria Airport, displayed at BC Aviation Museum.
Saskatoon, SK Canada Remembers International Air Show
Wednesday August 18th 1999
St Catherine AC Retirees & Pionairs meet at 10am Sweets and
Crepes Cafe, Ontario St & Lakeport.Colin Bailey 935-3970
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. Bill Fisher, past Director, Vancouver Island Pionairs sends this
message -
Re CF-TCC Lockheed L10A, dateline August 10th, 1999.
THE EAGLE HAS LANDED
FYI - The little beauty arrived at CYYJ at 15:40 to-day.
We put her to bed after a day of flying through the Rockies at
16:10. The Capts., MacLeod and Patry retired to Sidney and some food,
sight seeing (I Guess ). It will stay locked up in the hangar
to-morrow and the next day. The first flight on the 13th will be at
09:00 for contest winners from radio station CFAX.
The next flight will be at 10:15 for the local media,
the third flight will be at 13:00 for travel agents and the fourth
and last flight of the day will be at 14:15 for member from the
Victoria Airport Authority and the BCAM.
I have been around airplanes all my life, well since I was fifteen
and learning to fly, and I have never seen such a shiny, spotless
aircraft of any kind as CF-TCC was on arrival to-day.
From: "Bill Fisher" <
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. Jack McManus tell us that
Members of my family who are still employed by Air Canada.
John: Aircraft Services Training Instructor YVR;
Peggy Iverson: Customer service Manager YVR;
Ken Iverson Stn Attendant;
Paul Iverson: Aircraft Services cleaner;
and nephew Felix Hunter: Flight attendant.
(Anyone top that? - eds)
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. From the Globe and Mail Wednesday April 7nd 1937 -
US - Canada dispute on Air Lines denied.
Only question to be settled is choice of Shediac or Montreal as
Transatlantic Terminal, Official says.
Reports current in the US and Canada that the organisation of a
transatlantic air service was being delayed by a dispute between
Washington and Ottawa whether New York or Montreal should be the New
World terminus of the route were officially denied here today.
The only question is whether the service will be routed to New York
from Montreal or Shediac, New Brunswick.
It is understood in both capitals that one or the other
Canadian points will be chosen. Montreal has the advantage of being
Canada's largest city, where a first class airport already exists, with
radio beam and large runways and where a good deal of traffic could be
picked up. It may develop, however, in the course of tests which
Imperial Airways will make this year that to make Shediac the Canadian
terminal would save a little time for passengers enroute to New York.
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. And yet another memory from Bill Norberg -
Subject: Smoking in aircraft and the Maintenance function.
In my adolescent years I somehow managed to avoid starting to smoke.
It was very commonplace when I was growing up but neither of my parents
smoked so it was not something that had tacit parent approval.
As I grew older many tried to get me started but the more they tried,
the more stubborn I became about not smoking.
I started work with TCA in the Instrument shop and as I progressed
through the various types of instrument maintenance I did quite a bit
of work on air driven gyro instruments.
There were three basic instruments that had
gyros driven by air pressure...or I should say vacuum pressure. The
Directional Gyro that gave the pilot heading information,the Gyro
Horizon that indicated aircraft attitude in the fore and aft and lateral
directions,and finally a Turn and Bank indicator that made it possible
for the pilot to make accurate turns during airport approach
manoeuvers. These were very important instruments.
An engine driven pump was the source of vacuum and these instruments
were connected to that source.As the vacuum pump operated it drew air
from the cockpit and cabin areas through a light paper filter at the
rear of these three gyro instruments.The airflows within the instruments
were directed to small jets that caused the airflow to impinge on small
buckets around the circumference of the gyro rotors. This airflow would
cause the rotors to spin very rapidly on sensitive bearings and reach a
speed of about 15000 RPM. These spinning rotors provided the gyroscopic
force needed to operate the instruments. They would operate for about
1000 hours before requiring overhaul.
If I had any doubt about my decision not to smoke it was completely
eliminated when I saw the condition of the air jets and buckets on
these rotors after 1000 hours of service. They were literally blocked
or plugged with a brown tar substance that was almost impossible to
dissolve in normal cleaning fluids. It literally had to be scraped off.
In some cases the gyro rotors were completely seized with this
substance. The filters on these instruments would keep out dust
particles but could not control the flow of the tar compounds and
nicotine coming from all the people on board the aircraft who were
smoking. In those days there was no limitation on where one could
smoke on board the aircraft and many more people were smoking in
those days as well as many of the flight crew.
Another effect of smoking in aircraft cabins for maintenance was the
effect it had on the aircraft interiors. The tar compounds and nicotine
would adhere to the ceilings of the cabin and over time literally change
their colour. It was a major job to clean and repaint them.
The DC-8 cabin pressurization control valve was located at the rear
of the aircraft and all the vented air from the cabin during
pressurization would pass through this unit. After a number of hours
of operation this valve would often stick shut due to the accumulation
of tar compounds and render the pressurization control system
ineffective.
The only beneficial aspect of allowing smoking on board pressurized
aircraft was the fact that you could always find loose rivets or cracks
in the fuselage skin.The escaping tar compounds would leave a brown
streak that was easily visible during the inspection process.
The decision to eliminate smoking on board aircraft was a wise one
from many viewpoints not the least of which was flight crew and
passenger health and maintenance costs.
Bill Norberg
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. John Rodger shares this memory -
Subject: Super Connie
Hi ; Re super connie. I was living in Mississauga in 1996 where I
received the Streetville News weekly .To my surprise one week they had a
picture of Phil Yull ( former Dorval resident) with a/c 405 CF-TGE in
the hanger at Millardair where they were restoring it. This being the
first aircraft that I worked on when I started at TCA 4a hanger in 1956
(was with them until the last one left from the new base) it aroused my
interest so I got Bernie Danis and we went out to see it. We were
welcomed with open arms when they found out we had worked on the
aircraft. Our memories were put to the test as the mechanics had not
worked on this type of aircraft before.They told us that they had a lot
of visitors especially pilots who brought in their log books showing
where they had been with the aircraft. I moved back to Mtl. in the fall
of 96 so did not see the finished product until last summer when I had a
visit where it is now standing at the Millarair hanger off of Derry Rd.
Thanks for the memories John Rodger. PS I still have the picture and
write up from the News so if anyone wants it I could copy and mail it to
you Thanks JR
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. Terry's travel tips.
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. Smilie.
Ross Graham sends this question -
Do you think that this Y2K thing applies to cuckoo clocks?
Ross
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. That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
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Number 394 Date August 9th, 1999 BYN 1st Published in October 1995
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. DID YOU KNOW?
You can read or retrieve back issues of the BYN?
Just visit our web site at:
http://www.acfamily.net/between
and click on the "Archives" button.
This area is only open to "BETWEEN YOURSELVES - NetLetter" subscribers
and you will need the following password to enter -
User Name: byn Password: vesta
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. Need to know.
Effective July 15th, the amount of wine you can bring into Canada duty
- and tax-free as part of your personal exemption has been increased.
Old amount 1.14 litres,
NEW amount 1.5 litres.
To include this new amount you have to:
Carry it in your personal baggage or checked luggage.
Meet the minimum age requirements of the province or territory you enter.
Not be claiming any other alcoholic beverages in your personal exemption.
Be returning after an absence of at least 48 hours if you are a Canadian
resident.
For Canadian residents ONly:
In addition to the wine increase, your 7 day duty - and tax-free personal
exemption has increased.
Old amount ca$500.00
NEW amount ca$750.00
Family Affair / Eligibility
- Family Affair is valid for personal travel only.
- family affair cannot be used for immigration purposes.
- Use for business purposes carries the same penalties as
abuse of employee free/reduced rate travel privileges.
- Fare applies on the scheduled services of Air Canada & its
connector carriers (Air Ontario, airBC, Air Alliance, Air Nova).
- Family travel is applicable on Air Canada flights and on
the following offline codeshares:
Lufthansa codeshare flights on Toronto-Frankfurt, Vancouver-Frankfurt.
- Air Canada reserves the right to change/cancel the program at any time
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. Alan Macleod sends us the latest on CF-TCC
Subject: Lockheed CF-TCC update!
Tango Charlie Charlie has passed, with glowing colors, its 100 hour
inspection at Winnipeg. This from the head honcho of "Lockheed
Maintenance", George Huntington a "B" engineer in Winnipeg. George
phoned me to say they had replaced a few accessories, (starter,
generator and a some gaskets to try and stop ALL oil leaks, strobe light
transformer, balanced the wheels and other small items), changed the
oil, spark plugs and other 100 hour items. Then they washed it, cleaned
and polished it. That's the second cleaning it has received this year.
It's all set to go to Victoria for the 60th anniversary celebrations of
the airport there.
Captain Patry and I will leave Winnipeg on Tuesday to ensure our arrival
in CYYJ by Thursday. Remember, the aircraft will be on display there at
the museum on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Friday we will fly it four
times locally.
Following Victoria visit, it will be in Vancouver flying for "Dreams
Take Flight" 19th, 20th, 21st and 23rd.
Next stop will be in Calgary on the 26th, 27th, 28th and 29th.
Then on the 29th, it will be head for Edmonton. We will check with the
folks at the Reynolds Museum at Wetaskiwin, home of the Aviation Hall of
Fame, and if they like we shall stop there for a day on the way to Edmonton.
Edmonton Dreams Take flight flying will be over the Labor Day weekend.
. Some thoughts about the fin number for CF-TCC by Alan Macleod -
Now the explanation of the "25" on the fins. I was told it signifies
that TCC was the 5th aircraft of the 2nd type that T.C.A. owned.
CF-TCA, number 23, was the 3rd aircraft of the second type.
CF-AYZ and CF-BAF would have been number 1 and number 2.
Going back to the number 25 for a minute, if the Lockheed's were the
second type of aircraft the airline had, that must mean the Stearman was
designated as the first type. Yet, Bill Norberg mentioned (I'm pretty
sure it was Bill) it was number 20. (Gerry (Norberg) also knows where the
Stearman remains are. Also, when the first L1408 arrived it was #26.
What happened when they reached #30 ? Weren't the DC-3s numbered the # 30
series ??
(The DC3's were numbered 357-383, 390-392 and the Lockheed 10A fleet was
numbered 21-25, L14 numbered 26 thru 41, l18 numbered 42 - 56. - eds)
. Help!
Speaking of CF-BAF, Captain Gerry Norberg, who helps us fly TCC, says he
knows where the remains of CF-BAF are located and wants to resurrect it.
If anybody is interested in doing the same thing Gerry would be pleased
to receive your donations of $$$ or time in the project !! Prenez Garde!!
. Ray Lank mentioned how much interest the Lockheed was stirring up across
the system. For sure I have never seen so many retired folk, maintenance
and pilots and all types coming out to see the aircraft. Even people
from other airlines (Maritime Central) who operated the type have been
showing up. Great.
The best example I recall was last year in Quebec City. While the
aircraft was there for the 10th Anniversary of Air Alliance, I noticed
and elderly gentleman approaching the aircraft. He was being helped by
his daughter. They came up to us and he said " I know something about
this aircraft you probably don't know." I said " I can tell you do".
This man was probably between 80 and 85.
He took out a large envelope he was carrying and produced three 9x16
photos.. The first showed TCC flying by a group of six or eight men
standing on the side of a grass runway. The aircraft was very low,
maybe one hundred feet. One wheel was in the down position. the other
was only halfway down. The second photo showed poor TCC on its belly in
a grass field (not the grass runway), with both props bent. The third
photo showed a man crawling underneath the aircraft to see what damage
was done. The elderly gentleman who had these photos said, " see that
guy looking underneath the belly" ?, " well that's me! I was the
maintenance engineer for Matane Air services and we operated TCC for
some years". I asked him how long it took to get it back in flying
condition. "Next day. Put new props on and fixed the gear problem". He
said there were no crankshaft run out checks in those days . Also said
if they hadn't gotten it flying the airline would have gone bust !!
His daughter said they read in the paper TCC was in Quebec City for a
weekend. They drove 80 miles to come and see it !
That's it for now.
Next report will be from Vancouver in about two weeks.
Alan MacLeod.
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. Alan Macleod has another question for us -
Here's another question.
Most people know what Global Positioning is and about the Global Navigation
system---especially the retired navigators!!
Does anybody know which aircraft Air Canada operates, was the first
one to have a GPS system installed on board ?
I bet Phil Pawsey knows. After all, he was one of those Navigating types !!!
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. Found on the internet.
What's in a name?
British Airways had contemplated changing its name to plain BA because
60% of its customers are not British. Fearing a backlash at home, it
opted instead for removing the stylized Union Flag from the tailfins of
its aircraft in favour of ethnic art from around the world - provoking
a huge protest from UK customers anyway.
The Fiji Millennium Wall will run along the 180th meridian, otherwise known
as the international date line. Preliminary plans call for it to be lit
so brightly that it will be able to be seen from outer space,
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. Janet Grunwald sends us this -
Subject: Fund Raiser
Here is an interesting night out with all proceeds
benefiting Dreams take Flight.
From Tuesday August 17 to Saturday August 21 at 7:00 p.m.
and Saturday, August 21 at 1:00 p.m.
A Cajun and Creole Cooking Demonstration
by Chef Susan Murphy of the Cookin' Cajun Cooking School
in New Orleans, LA will take place in a
demonstration kitchen.
Susan is an energetic and entertaining chef who is co-author of the
Cookin' Cajun Cooking School Cook book.
Susan will create a complete New Orleans meal from appetizer to desert,
which all guests will enjoy after the demonstration.
Tickets are $50 per person (30 people per evening)
and include wine and beer.
The location:
Kostuch Publications Ltd., Demonstration Kitchen
23 Lesmill Road, Don Mills
for ticket info the contact is
Gary or Carrrol Moorcroft (905) 457-5137.
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. Bill Norberg has a comment about the article in NetLetter nr 391 -
Subject: Re item in # 391 about Viscount CF-THI
The item about H.W.Seagrim turning over the Viscount CF-THI to the National
Museum in Ottawa brought back some memories for me.
I was Director of the Winnipeg Base at that time and was responsible for
having the Viscount prepared for its flight to Ottawa.
We had painted the aircraft in its original "Candy Stripe" livery and after
the work had been completed it was on a local test flight before heading to
Ottawa.
When this aircraft was noticed by many residents of Winnipeg we were
bombarded with telephone calls wanting to know what was going on. At the
time we were in the middle of the famous "Winnipeg Base" issue and anything
out the normal became the cause of much consternation.
Public Relations were after me to give the Press a story about it, but I
refused. It was not of any legitimate concern to the public and I did not
want to steal any thunder from the official presentation in Ottawa.
Buzz Sawyer of PR was very upset at my position needless to say. I simply
maintained we had many aircraft in different stages of paint jobs every week
and this was no different.
I did not owe the press an explanation and did not give them one.
Regards Bill Norberg
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. News from the districts.
On July 28th, the Comox and Courtenay group of Pionairs held their
monthly luncheon at the Kingfisher hotel in Courtenay.
Some two dozen were in attendance, emceed by Eric van der Holt in the
absence of Murray Phipps who is on vacation in Cornwall UK, perhaps hoping
to get a good view of the upcoming eclipse.
The names of those who attended, just in case you want to know who the
lucky retirees are who live on this beautiful Island!
There is an open invite for visiting Pionairs, and your co-pilot took full
advantage of that, the locals were -
Bill and Ann Bevan, Warren Darch, Ness and Michael Dewdney,
Bill and Kay Freeman, Bill and Rhona Muir, Bruce and Kay Mutch,
Frank and Fran Stevens, Eric and Joan van der Holt, Len and Louris Woodcock
and Ralph and Heather Tisdall.
During the lunch, Ann Bevan and Bill Freeman both got a small slice of
cake with a candle to celebrate their birthdays, but nothing was said about
which birthday!
Ralph and Heather Tisdall are wrapping up the final details for the
upcoming Prestwick Open golf tourney Sept 7th through 10th in PEI to
celebrate the 30th anniversary of this event.
Note that the August luncheon is cancelled as the UpIsland luncheon of
the Vancouver Island Pionairs is being held in Nanaimo August 25th.
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. Ron Miles ends us this -
Subject: Past TCA HIstory
Does anyone recall the 40's when all TCA flights between Toronto (Old
Malton Terminal) and Ottawa/Montreal operated via North Bay in both
directions? The fare between Toronto and Ottawa/Montreal was the same as
North Bay and Ottawa/Montreal or return. Smart businessmen soon caught onto
this fact and booked and paid for reservations from Toronto to
Ottawa/Montreal with a stop in North Bay. They had no intention of going
to Ottawa/Montreal and simply returned from North Bay to Toronto and
applied for a full refund which was legitimate.
In other words a free trip from Toronto to North Bay return.
I have no idea how long this was in effect before it was corrected, and I
believe a similar situation once existed ex Vancouver to Calgary/Edmonton
via Lethbridge.
Any thoughts from some old timers?
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. Terry's travel tips.
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Sky Princess - September 27/99
22 Night Alaska/Far East Cruise Sailing from Vancouver to Hong Kong
Inside cabin from $1404USD, pp dbl Outside cabin from $1604USD, pp dbl.
plus $207.70USD Port charges and Government Taxes per person
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Inside cabin from $779USD, Per Person Double Occupancy
plus $124USD Port charges per person
Regal Princess - September 26/99
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Inside cabin from $639USD, pp dbl Outside cabin from $739USD, pp dbl
plus $78.60USD Port charges and Government fee per person
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Inside cabin from $372USD, Per Person Double Occupancy
plus $128.75USD Port charges per person
To take advantage of these special rates call 1-800-665-3100!!!
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. Smilie.
Lawsom Tremellon sent this topical chuckle -
TO: My Boss
From: Blondie
RE: Changing calendars from Y2K
I hope that I haven't misunderstood your instructions because, to be
honest, none of this Y to K problem made much sense to me. At any
rate, I have finished the conversion. The calendars have returned
from the printer and are ready to be distribute with the following
new months:
Januark, Februark, Mak, Julk
I also changed all the days of each week to:
Sundak, Mondak, Tuesdak, Wednesdak, Thursdak, Fridak, Saturdak
We are now Y to K compliant.
Val
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. That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
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. Read somewhere - by your co-pilot.
During WWII, American war planes were ferried to the UK via Dorval, Gander
and Goose Bay. The aircrew were returned via aircraft operated by British
Overseas Airways Corporation (BOAC) on behalf of the Return Ferry Service.
Canada was concerned that Trans-Canada Air Lines was not being given the
opportunity to obtain transatlantic experience for its pilots with a view
to peacetime passenger scheduled flights.
In May 1942 various scenarios were discussed including obtaining a Douglas
DC4 aircraft or operate the 2 Liberators used by BOAC but with TCA pilots.
The British authorities made available a Lancaster III serial nr R5727 which
was being used for demonstrations in North America after seeing service with
nr 44 squadron of the RAF in Europe.
In May 1943 this Lancaster had all its military equipment removed by the
Victory Aircraft of Toronto, then flown to the original UK manufacturers
for modification including new engines, long range fuel tanks and a more
pointed nose - made of plywood - thus giving a cruising range of 4000 miles.
The inaugural flight was Jul 22nd 1943, registered as CF-CMS fin # 100, from
Dorval to Prestwick, Scotland operated as Canadian Government Transatlantic
Air Service (CGTAS), piloted by Captain R.F.George the aircraft carried 4 tons
of mail in record time of 12 hours 26 minutes.
'Old 100' was destroyed by fire following a crash on take-off at Dorval on
Jun 1st 1945 while engaged in engine trials of the new Merline 85 engines.
There were no fatalities.
With a total of 6 Lancasters piloted by TCA pilots, navigators supplied by the
RCAF, a schedule of 3 round trips a week was maintained and, in 1944,
1 million pounds of mail and 200 passengers were carried. This was Canada's
main flag carrier on the international route until TCA was able to complete
the change from quasi-military service to a fully fledged commercial operation.
Other carriers at that time were Transcontinental & Western Air,
American Export Airlines and Pan American of the US, with BOAC.
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. Lockheed L10A -
Captain Alan Macleod sends this memory after reading our piece in
NetLetter nr 392 -
Thanks for the note re the L10A in London and Linda Finch and her steed.
In 1997 I was down in Surabaya, Indonesia, as project Mgr. for Hadj
that year.
It so happened that Linda stopped there on her way around the world as
that was one of the stops Amelia made.
I arranged to be at the airport for her arrival and introduced myself to
her. a group of 4 AirCanada employees presented here with caps with our
Lockheed pictured on the peak.
She of course was surprised that Air canada would be down in Indonesia
to begin with and she said she knew all about our Lockheed. we had a
chit chat and then just before we parted ways she said " it was so nice
of you to come here and meet me. Thanks so much. What I really don't
understand is why you folks have your Lockheed down here in this part of
the world !". Of course we explained why we there and that the Lockheed
was safe and sound back in the museum in Winnipeg.
I met her again in Paris at the air show that following june. First
thing she said was "don't tell me you have your Lockheed over here too?"
Nope, I said, I'm just here seeing the show.
Interesting that you said the aircraft (her's) would end up in the
Smithsonian. I saw it advertised for sale for 1.25 Million U.S. a few
months ago. Did you hear the museum has it now ? I don't know if you
are aware that Pratt & Whitney financed her trip to the tune of many
millions. There was even a Grumman Albatross flying with here on that trip.
Regards Alan.
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. Headline in the 'Between Ourselves' dated February 1966,
loaned by Kitch Olson.
The delivery of an 85,700 Pound Baby.
Company pilots, Captain George Lothian, Ron Baker and Al Wilton arrived at
Long Beach on Sunday Jan 2nd 1966. Early the next morning these three men
went to the Douglas Company and wasted no time in getting aboard the DC-9
registration CF-TLC fin nr 702.
They practically 'lived' in the cockpit during the next four days, both in
the air and on the ground. They sat for hours in the cockpit with Douglas
pilots asking questions and generally getting acquainted with the new
machine. Not until they had explored every situation that came to mind did
they decide to flight test the DC-9.
In the air, each pilot has the opportunity to fly the aircraft and observe
how it reacted to the controls. They made landings, take-offs, stall
procedures, steep turns, one-engined take-offs and almost every conceivable
manoeuvre possible to find out if the airplane corresponded to its
specifications.
De-briefing sessions took place after these flights and recommended
modifications were relayed to Douglas engineers. Getting the work done on
the aircraft wasn't easy because the pilots flew the aircraft night and day.
In one instance, workmen were taken aboard to make some cabin modifications
while the aircraft was being flown.
Others on board with a great deal of interest included Paul Woodruff,
Engineer, Flight Test - DC-9; Ted Godwin, Acting Maintenance Instructor;
Robbie Robinson, Warranty Administrator, all from Dorval: F.'Bun' Moore,
Contract Representative and Walt Miller, Manager, Flight Service Equipment.
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. Brian Dunn has this info in a recent YYZNEWS newsletter -
Air Ontario (dba as Air Canada Connector) announced that they will commence
YYZ-Rochester NY service on September 19th with four DHC-8 flights per
weekday.
Al Graham, previously executive Vice-President and COO, has been
appointed President and Chief Operating Officer of Royal Aviation Inc.
Recently, two airline pilots who were hiking in Alaska found the wreckage
of a Northwest Orient Airlines DC-4 which had been declared missiing since
1948! The wreckage was at the 6500' level of Mt.Sanford and there had been
30 people on board the chartered DC-4.
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. Seen in the Globe & Mail August 4th 1961 edition -
Dateline Montreal Aug 3rd -
TCA laying off 300 employees.
Trans-Canada Air Lines is laying off about 300 employees across Canada.
A spokesman said today most of the layoffs will be here. Most of the
workers were hired 2 years ago on a temporary basis to handle maintenance
work incurred by the increase of new aircraft.
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. From the Now you have heard everything dept!
The British government is planning to introduce passports for dogs in
Great Britian. The animals will have blood tests and get a health
certificate issued and a small implant for identification purposes, this
will allow owners who take their animals out of BRITIAN from having the
animal placed in 6 months quarantine on returning.
(Remember 1984 - big brother is watching? Its got to come! - eds)
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. Found on the internet.
Here is another on the Super Constellation saga -
The Super Connie in Toronto is an ex-Trans Canada Airline (CF-TGE) and ex-
World Wide Airways (CF-RNR) aircraft.
It sat disassembled at a farm in St.Jean Port Joli Quebec until rescued by
Connie nut Phil Yull who had it shipped to Toronto.
He completely restored the cockpit and eventually had an agreement with the
owners of the Constellation Hotel (near the Lester Pearson International
Airport entrance) to erect it outside as a bar and meeting place. Air
Canada threatened a lawsuit if he painted it in it's old TCA colours so he
opted for the generic white with red speed stripe.
Well....it seems that the Connie was so popular that no one was going into
the Hotel bar anymore so the hotel owners told him to move it off the
property. To tell you the truth, after having a few libations there myself
it was a better bar by a long shot! (pun)
Anywho...I belive an agreement was reached with Carl Millard (who had
helped before) to erect it where it is now. Last time I saw it they were
still setting up.
Want some nostalgia and a pleasant ambiance?....stop in and check it out. I
recommend it highly.
You can't miss it, it's on the north-side of the airport and is easy to
access.
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. Terry's travel tips.
Some departure taxes at Canadian airports.
At the following airports the tax is collected at departure -
Where Amount Exemptions
Dorval $10.00 Infants, in transit within 24 hours.
Vancouver $ 5.00 (BC & Yukon) Infants and intransit passengers.
$10.00 (North America)
$15.00 (International)
Edmonton $ 5.00 (Alberta) Infants, intransit passengers
$10.00 (Outside) and Disabled.
Moncton $10.00 Infants and intransit passengers.
Castlegar, BC $ 5.00
Sydney, NS $10.00 Infants and intransit passengers.
Bathurst, NS $10.00 Infants under 2 years.
Kenora, ON $ 5.00 Intransit passengers.
Thunder Bay ON $10.00 Children <12 and intransits.
Fort St. James $ 8.00 (from vendor machine)
$10.00 (from booth)
The following tax is added to tickets -
Calgary $10.00 + GST Infants, intransit passengers and
pass holders.
Kelowna, BC $ 5.00 + GST Infants, intransit passengers and
pass holders.
Winnipeg $ 5.00 + GST
$10.00 + GST eff.Oct 1/99.
Infants, intransit passengers and
pass holders.
Ottawa $10.00 + GST eff.Sep 1/99.
Infants, intransit passengers and
pass holders.
A 20 BM$ Levied for all departures from Bermuda.
Dargal Interline has the following offers -
Subject: Enchanting Mediterranean
Sept 4, 16, 28 and Oct 10
12 Nights ~ Royal Caribbean ~ Legend of the Seas
Barcelona/Spain, Marseilles/France, Livorno/Italy, Naples/Italy
At Sea, Venice/Italy, At Sea, Messina/Sicily, Civitavecchia/Italy
Villefranche (Monte Carlo/Cannes)/France, At Sea, Barcelona
Inside us$814, Outside us$1114 plus Port charges and government fees
For more information on this and other specials - contact us at:
DARGAL Interline 1-800-690-3223
And Canadian Interline Travel offers this -
Greece offers an astounding step back into history!
6 Night Grecian Holiday
Departure Dates: Oct 1 - 26/99
Tourist Class from $475CDN, Plus $65CDN Tax, pp dbl
Superior Class from $589CDN, Plus $65CDN Tax, pp dbl
Tour Includes:
3 nights Hotel accommodation in Athens, including breakfast.
Athens Sightseeing Tour (morning half day ),
One Day Saronic Cruise to Poros, Hydra, & Aegina (including lunch)
3 nights in Mykonos, Paros, or Naxos, with breakfast (choose any one island).
Ferry transportation to and from Piraeus to the island of your choice
Moderate Fully Escorted Greek Odyssey Land Tour from Athens
Departure Dates: Weekly (Based on availability)
7 Night Package from $699-1275CDN, Per Person, double occupancy
Tour Includes:
Services of a professional tour director
Accommodation at Tourist & Superior Tourist Class hotels.
Rooms with private bath or shower, hotel taxes, porterage, tips, and
service charges. 7 continental breakfasts (B); 4 dinners (D).
Touring by private first-class air-conditioned motorcoach.
Ferry across the Gulf of Corinth Sightseeing with local guide in Athens
Visits to Kalambaka, Meteora, Delphi, Olympia, Mycenae*
Scenic highlights: Corinth Canal Portfolio of travel documents.
Call Canadian interline Travel to take advantage
of these special rates at 1-800-665-3100!!!
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. Smilie.
While boarding a coast-to-coast flight with his two boys, a pilot asked
the captain if he could show the kids where Dad worked. The captain
said, "Sure, come on in." He and the F/O demo'd all the bells and
whistles for the kids and then got back to work.
The kids watched as the captain pulled out his charts and began to
highlight the planned route. The seven-year-old was amazed by this and
asked quietly, "Dad, what's he doing?" Before Dad could respond, his
nine-year-old brother answered, "What do you think he's doing? He's
coloring."
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