Aviation Memorabilia Newsletter

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Our crew is: Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson
Chief Navigator  - Terry Baker

number 179      date July 14th 1997
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. News from the Districts -
From the Atlantic Canada Newsletter # 18 covering NS, PEI, Nfld.
Keith Hatfield put together this material for us to share -

Regional Executive Committee:
Director: Charles Stock      Vice Director: Scott Foyes
Membership: Ken McLoed       Secretary/Treasurer: Pearl Piers
Social: Chuck Allison        Interline: Bernie Miller
Communications & Welfare: Phil Helms  Newsletter: Keith Hadfield
Past Director: Bernie Miller.

Anniversary day in Halifax.
Saturday July 26th is the date to share in Air Canaada's 60th
Anniversary celebrations with co-workers, past & present, at
Halifax International Airport from 1300 to 1600. All employees
and retirees and their families are encouraged to attend.
Refreshments will be served. Lockheed 10A CF-TCC will also be
on static display. In addition, from July 24th - 27th, the
CF-TCC will be available for familiarization flights for the
general public, as well as Air Canada staff. Seats are CA$50
each, the proceeds go to this year's Dreams Take Flight program
which is scheduled for mid-October.

ACRA Family Beach Day arranged for July 18th at Rainbow Haven
starting at 1300
A Picnic BBQ is planned for August 23rd.
Call Naomi Walsh at (902)464-8009 for more details.

The local ACRA Golf Tournament will take place July 28th at
River Oaks Golf Course. Shotgun start at 0800, with steak BBQ when
the 18 holes are completed. Fees CA$40.00 for ACRA members and
CA45.00 for guests. Call Chuck Allison (902)826-2955 or
Jack Gray at (902) 462-4952 for details.

Pionairs bowling resumes at 1300 on Monday Oct 6th at Bayers
Road Bowlorama in Halifax.

Special Pionairs meeting Wednesday Nov 19th at  1100 in the
Air Canada Conference Room at Halifax International Airport.

Don't forget the next Pionairs meeting at Armdale Yacht Club,
will be October 1st at 1100 which starts off the Monthly
meetings, held on the 1st Wednesday of each month.

The 1997 Pionairs Christmas Party will be held in early December
at the Armdale Yacht Club.

TCA Annual Reunion
The 26th Annual Reunion will be held Nov 24th thru 27th which
is US Thanksgiving, at the Tradewinds Resort in St. Petersburg,
Florida. Rate US$81.00 per night dbl. Call resort direct to
reserve 1-800-237-0707.
Many activities are planned and more information can be
obtained by calling the President, Morley Ryder at (902)469-1367
or the VP Mary Emerson at (902)423-2197.
The membership fee of CA$5.00 is extended to anyone who works
for or retired from Air Canada.

Have a great summer - Keith Hadfield.

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. Found on the Internet.

RIGHT AIRPORT, WRONG TIME:
Better late than never?  Not always.  Last week United Airlines
Flight 728 was forced to return to its departure point of O'Hare
International when it arrived at Harrisburg, Pennsylvania after
the local airport closed.  The single runway at Harrisburg is
under construction from 2330 to 0630 local time, effectively
closing the airport.

SMOKING IN THE BOY'S ROOM?:
New York computer executive Raviv Laor, 28, was all settled into
the lavatory of a Paris-to-Newark Air France flight on May 19.
But, before he could finish his business, he was unceremoniously
dragged from the closed compartment, pants down and toilet paper
in hand, and accused of lighting up on the non-smoking flight.
Non-smoker Laor is suing the airline for $12 million after
failing to get an apology or even a response to his complaints.

The first 737-800 twinjet made its debut June 30 at Renton...

Dutch airline KLM is to acquire full control over the UK's third
largest scheduled airline, Air UK. KLM already owns 45% of Air UK
with the remainder of the shares in the hands of British Air
Transport Holdings. KLM and Air UK have had a cooperation agreement
since 1980 with the British carrier operating feeder service to
Amsterdam from 14 British cities.

Low cost US airlines ValuJet and AirWays have announced they will
merge their activities under the name AirTran.

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. Interline stuff

Fraser Muir, Past National President of Pionairs sends us this
information regarding passes -
The following applies to retirees travelling on pass and trying to
board alternate flights on alternate routings other than those
listed through the "call centre".
From a recent personal experience I can attest that there are
passenger agents at air port counters that are not aware of how to
list retirees for pass travel, according to our priority.
As a result I have had several meetings with the "powers that be"
at Air Canada Headquarters who have assured me  that steps will be
taken to rectify this situation.
However, I feel it's also up to ourselves to check with the agent
and verify that we are indeed listed properly.
1/ Point out that you are a "Retiree" and not a "Former Employee".
2/ That "Service Date" has nothing to do with your listing.
3/ It's our "Length of Service" that should be listed in the
squares provided for the "Service Date".
Always remember it' your LENGTH OF SERVICE that decides your
priority, and above all be alert, and review the pass regulations.
If you have any questions check with your Air Canada Pionair
Director, or the National Executive.
Good Luck   Fraser Muir, Past President

-------------------------------------------------------------' 
CELEBRATE AIR CANADA S DIAMOND JUBILEE IN STYLE - LOTO A319'
'                                                           
YOU COULD BE ONE OF 40 WINNERS OF A TRIP TO TOULOUSE, FRANCE'  
'                                                             
THAT S RIGHT. YOU COULD BE ONE OF OUR LUCKY LOTO A319'         
WINNERS, SELECTED TO TRAVEL TO FRANCE ON AUGUST 24 TO HELP'    
CELEBRATE OUR 60TH ANNIVERSARY IN STYLE. TWENTY AIR CANADA'    
EMPLOYEES AND TWENTY RETIREES WILL SPEND 4 DAYS IN FRANCE,'    
GUESTS OF AIRBUS INDUSTRIE. BUT THAT S NOT ALL  YOU LL TRAVEL' 
HOME FROM TOULOUSE ONBOARD OUR NEWEST A319, PAINTED IN THE'    
ORIGINAL TRANS-CANADA AIR LINES  LIVERY. NOW THAT S'           
CELEBRATING OUR 60TH IN STYLE. FOR CONTEST UPDATES OR'         
INFORMATION DIAL 1 800 667-7252.'              
'                                                           
DID YOU KNOW THAT...'                                          
- TRANS-CANADA AIR LINES (TCA) BEGAN SERVICE SEPTEMBER 1,'     
1937, A 50-MINUTE TRIP FROM VANCOUVER TO SEATTLE, USING A'   
LOCKHEED ELECTRA 10A.'                                       
- AIR CANADA IS THE FIRST NORTH AMERICAN AIRLINE TO INTRODUCE' 
THE AIRBUS A319 INTO SERVICE.'                               
- THE A319 IS A MODERN, STATE-OF-THE-ART TWIN ENGINE COST-'    
EFFICIENT, CUSTOMER FRIENDLY AIRCRAFT.'                      
- THE A319 HAS THE LONGEST RANGE CAPABILITY OF COMPETING'      
AIRCRAFT WITH THE ABILITY TO FLY NON-STOP FROM VANCOUVER TO' 
MONTREAL WITH A FULL PASSENGER LOAD.'                        
- 35 AIRBUS A319 AIRCRAFT WILL BE IN SERVICE BY MID-1998'      
AFFIRMING OUR FLEET AS ONE OF THE YOUNGEST IN THE WORLD.'    
- THE A319 CONFIGURATION FEATURES 16 EXECUTIVE CLASS AND 96'   
HOSPITALITY SERVICE SEATS.'                                  
'                                                           
HOW TO ENTER? IT S AS EASY AS 123'                             
'                                                           
RETIREES'                                                      
CONTEST INFORMATION, INCLUDING A SEPARATE ENTRY FORM, WILL'    
ARRIVE AT YOUR HOME LOCATION.'                                 
'                                                           
1. CORRECTLY COMPLETE THE ENTRY FORM INCLUDING THE QUESTIONS.' 
'                                                           
2.  MAIL YOUR ENTRY FORM TO:'                                  
LOTO A319, EMPLOYEE COMMUNICATIONS, AIR CANADA CENTRE'     
261, PO BOX 14000, STATION AIRPORT, DORVAL, QUEBEC,'       
CANADA H4Y 1H4'                                            
'                                                           
3.  ENTRIES MUST BE RECEIVED BY AUGUST 4 WITH ONLY ONE ENTRY'  
PER RETIREE.'                                              
'                                                           
WHAT IF I DON T RECEIVE MY ENTRY FORM?'                        
'                                                           
RETIREES'                                                      
YOU SHOULD BE RECEIVING THE CONTEST AND INFORMATION ENTRY'     
FORM BY CANADA POST WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. IF YOU DO NOT' 
RECEIVE THE CONTEST MATERIAL BY JULY 21, YOU MAY REQUEST A'    
COPY BY CONTACTING BERNICE PAUL AT (204) 941-2550.'            
'                                                           
DRAW WILL TAKE PLACE AT 10:00 ON AUGUST 5, 1997 IN MONTREAL'   
AND WINNERS WILL BE ADVISED BY TELEPHONE, SO BE SURE TO'       
COMPLETE AND RETURN YOUR ENTRY FORM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.'   
'                                                           
NOTE: WINNERS MUST BE READY TO TRAVEL ON AUGUST 24.'

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. Smilies.

I read today that the Boeing 777 has FIVE MILLION lines of computer
code.  Bet you won't see too many programmers flying in those
babies!

An aircraft received a very lengthy and complicated IFR clearance.
After he read back the clearance and was given a frequency change,
he replied, "You couldn't have given me a clearance like that
before you had computers."

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.

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>                 Our crew is: Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson
>                              Chief Navigator  - Terry Baker
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>                              number 178      date July 13th 1997
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>  . Welcome to Lorna Grossman (nee Howie), email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
>               Hal & Glad Ferris, email This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and
>                          an AC/TCA Ham operator at VE3 EZX
>               Bill Fisher, recently appointed Director of
>                            Vancouver Island Pionairs, can be
>                            emailed at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
>
>   . Remember in NetLetter nr 171 we told you that, according to
>      analysts, Air Canada was one of the better investments?
>      Well Air Canada is considered the 'Stock of the week'. The
>      past 52 weeks show a gain of 150% - don't you wish!
>
>    . In NetLetter nr 177 we included a bio from Roy McCormack, but
>       called Roy Ross - there is a Ross in the company, but not on
>       our email list (yet!) -( sorry about the confusion Roy - eds)
>
> . More on those Vanguards -
>
>   CF-TKK sold to Europe Aero Services in Oct 1972 registered as
>          F-BTYB. Last flight was May 29th 1976 then broken up
>          at Perpignan.
>   CF-TKL sold to Aviation Traders - UK in 1969, then acquired by
>          Europe Aero Services on Jun 27th 1973. Last flight 1980
>          then broken up at Perpignan.
>   CF-TKM scrapped at Montreal Aug 1973.
>   CF-TKN sold to Air Holdings UK in 1969 as G-AXNT, leased to
>          Lebanese Air Transport in 1970, then to Invicta
>             International in 1975. Last flight Oct 13th 1975
>             and broken up.
>
>                       ~-=o0o=-~
>
>  . After NetLetter nr 175, Bob Robbins sends us this -
>
>    Don Dowie's bit about his "secretary, assistant and confidente"
>   (Mary Cox) awakened my think-box.  Janet Pacheco was MY secretary,
>    assistant, confidente and occasionally life-saver when I was
>    Manager, Customer Services Training in CS HQ before I retired in
>    '72.  I lost track of her until seeing a picture of her with a
>    group of Vancouver personnel a couple of years ago.
>    Could anyone send me her mail address?
>            Bob Robbins  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
>
>                          ~-=o0o=-~
>
> . After reading about Tom Grant and his new web site in NetLetter 175,
>   Alan Rust sends us this information -
> 
>    If any Pionair or ACRA members are willing to make a Web page I
>    would be quite happy to put it online. I can also help them to a
>    certain extent.
>    Even though I am not an expert, I understand HTML code fairly
>      well.
>    They may want to promote local activities in their home town,
>    ACRA events or Pionair events, etc.
>    The main stipulation is that it cannot have any commercial content
>    as the Web site is sponsored by Mortimer online with this
>    understanding.
>           Alan Rust,Sysop, ACRA Airline BBS
>                       BBS (604) 541-1878
>                       FAX (604) 536-4593
>                WWW - http://www.mortimer.com/acra
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>                                ~-=o0o=-~
>
> . Back in Netletter nr 16 - January 1996, we ran the following
>      which, with year 2000 approaching, may be of interest
>      to those who joined us since Jan 1996 - from Aaron Charad.
>
>     Y2K is the new buzzword for year 2000 issues and concerns.
>     Some serious issues being raised about what the turn of the
>     century will do to the world's computer programs, and some
>     funny stuff as well. One person has said he is taking all his
>     money out of the bank, buying two months worth of food and a
>     gun for protection.
>
>     You're Not Working on the Year 2000 Date Problem Because...
>
>     1.  You're already in Chapter 11.
>     2.  You're 95, on life support and haven't paid your electric
>         bill for the last 3 months.
>     3.  You're planning to retire next year.
>     4.  You're not using computers yet, you're waiting for the
>         prices to come down.
>     5.  It's someone else's problem.
>     6.  Someone smarter than you will come up with an automated
>         solution.
>     7.  You believe in the Tooth Fairy.
>     8.  Your standards (found in a large red binder in the IS
>            library) outlined how dates should be used in all
>            applications.
>     9.  You only use vendor software.
>    10.  You lost the source code of your applications 3 years ago.
>    11.  You just don't have the time right now. Ask me again next
>         year when things slow down.
>    12.  You don't believe in computers.
>    13.  Government will pass legislation to roll back the clock
>         to 1900.
>    14.  You're moving your mission critical systems to client
>            servers.
>    15.  You'll have replaced your applications by then.
>    16.  You don't have the budget.
>    17.  You're too busy writing new applications (which can't handle
>         the year 2000 either.)
>    18.  You're planning to sell your company next year.
>    19.  January 1st 2000 falls on a Saturday and Monday's a
holiday...you'll have lots of time over the weekend.
>    20.  You were planning to phase out computers anyway.
>
>         More next time ....
>
>                                   ~-=o0o=-~
>
> . Interline stuff.
>
>   Visiting the Bahamas?
>    Bahamasair is the national airline and provides scheduled
>       services among the islands. Nassau International Airport is the
>       main airport, and is 16 kms west of Nassau.
>    Currency: Bahamian Dollar (BS$), US$ accepted at par.
>    Climate: low 15c in Jan to 32c high in Jul,Aug,Sep.
>    Passport: Not required for nationals of Canada, US or Britian,
>              identification with photo will be accepted.
>    Visa:     Not required for stays of less than 8 months.
>    Current: 120/220 volts depending upon location.
>    Language: English.
>    Public Holidays:  Aug 4  Emancipation Day
>                      Oct 12 Columbus Day
>    Transport: Bus service operated in main tourist areas.
>               Driving is on the left.
>    Taxes: Airport departure tax BH$15.00
>
>       Family Affaire sell-offs
>        All from Toronto to -
>              Richmond     CA$99
>              Los Angeles  CA$269
>              Seattle      CA$249
>              Dallas       CA$99
>        The Call Centre at 1-800-413-1113 has more details.
>
>    Europe Land Tours -
>       Prague - 6 days/4 nights from US$899 pp dbl.
>       Budapest - Prague combo 8 days/6 nights from US$1149 pp dbl.
>       Helsinki-Stockholm/Baltic Cruise 7 days/5 nights from US$749
>                  pp dbl includes space available air to Helsinki,
>                  cruise to Stockholm.
>       Italy Motorcoach Tour 'Carossella' - 8 days/6 nights
>                  from US$1289 pp dbl includes space available air
>                  3 dinners, 2 tours.
>       Greek Classical Motorcoach Tour - 7 nights/5 days from US$939
>                  pp dbl.
>     Call 1-800-422-3727 for more details.
>
>                              ~-=o0o=-~
>
> .  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
>        comments and email addresses of any others who may be
>        interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.
>
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.                 GREETINGS FROM                  .
.                Vancouver Island                 .
.              BEAUTIFUL B.C. CANADA              .
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Our crew is: Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson
Chief Navigator  - Terry Baker

number 177    date Jul 10th 1997
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. 60th anniversary special.

Air Canada will hold another Lotto A319 for employees AND retirees.
Names of 20 employees and 20 retirees will be drawn from those who
respond to the draw. The prize is on Aug 24th when the lucky
group will be entertained for 4 days by Airbus, prior to boarding
the latest A319 on its delivery flight. The aircraft will be
painted in Trans-Canada Air Lines colours to mark the 60th
anniversary. More details are in CIC 98 page 6!!!
Cory McAdams sends us this information -
Although I am not involved with this particular aspect of the
60th, I have heard that retirees will receive info and ballots at
home. The company is apparently doing a mail-out to retirees to
ensure they are able to participate. Employees will receive the
same ballot and info at their work locations.
Roger Clark confirms that the retirees will receive information
and a ballot in the mail for the Lotto 319.
They should be received by next week.
Cory McAdams.
(Thank you for keeping us upt to date Cory - eds)

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. Ross McCormack sent us this interesting piece -

After a few days delay I'm responding to your request for more
info about my days with Air Canada.
I started with Trans Canada Air Lines in March, 1954 on the same
day that our first Super Constellation, L-1049, arrived at Dorval.
I was hired by Ron Baker, Flight Test Engineer- Pilot .
The department was Flight Engineering, later to be re-named
Operations Engineering.
Barely 18 months later I was sent to California for a 12 month
stay at Lockheed as our Contract Representative in Burbank
(AC had ordered more L-1049's).
From 1956 to 1967 I continued working in Flight Test Engineering,
punctuated by about 10 months (1962-63) in Ste Therese, the crash
site DC-8, Fin No. 814, which went down shortly after take off from
Dorval Friday evening, November 29, 1962. The venue was virtually
a construction site requiring the building of a coffer dam of
sheet piling to permit digging for significant pieces of evidence
-- a task lasting through the winter and into spring and summer of
1963. An unpleasant assignment but interesting none-the-less.
In 1967 I was sent to Seattle at Boeing as our Contract
Representative. Air Canada had ordered 3 B-747-100's for delivery
in 1971.
At the time, Air Canada had also placed an order for 6 Boeing SST's
-- project which was never completed and was eventually cancelled.
The assignment in Seattle lasted for 4 years -- offering all the
advantages working for Boeing and none of the disadvantages.
Returning to Montreal in 1972, I was next assigned to the STOL
program (Air Transit) operating Twin Otter aircraft between down
town Montreal and Ottawa's Rockcliffe airport. Air Canada was
operating the service for the Canadian Government, intended to
develop the concept of city center to city center air transportation,
complete with its own connecting ground transportation at each end,
The Twin Otter was really "simulator" for an interim period. It was
configured with only 14 seats (simulating the larger and more
spacious seating of the four-engined Dash 7  which would have made
the concept more economically viable. Such up-grading of equipment
never materialized, losing out to proponents of more rapid ground
transportation -- such as Via Rail.
Air Transit cease operation in 1976.
The next nine years rounded out my career with Air Canada working
contract administration for new aircraft as well as selling our
surplus aircraft that had been retired from service.
I can't imagine a better and more interesting company to have worked
for in Canada.
Being associated with Pionairs affords me the opportunity to still
meet with the many fine people I've worked with in the past as we
are making new friends who worked at different locations and
departments where our paths never crossed during our employment
years.
I'm now living in the Collingwood area -- about 75 miles northwest
of Toronto. My wife, June, and I live 5 minutes from our golf course
and minutes from the chair lifts in the winter. Against the advice
of practically everybody, I decided to build our own house upon
retiring. So far it hasn't fallen down and we're enjoying
comfortable living in relatively countrified surroundings.
I'm associated with the Toronto district of Pionairs and somehow
find myself on Olie Moore's team for Pionairs for the next two years.
I been entrusted to look after the money end of it. With the help of
my predecessor, Ben Vezina, in Montreal, and a transition period
during the next few weeks working with my cohorts (Olie, his wife
Mary, Donna Coutts and Bill Ripley) there is an outside chance that
Pionairs won't become bankrupt.
It will be busy, no doubt, but I look forward to the next two years.
With regard to humour that the Netletter solicits and apparently
welcomes, perhaps the following might pass muster -- at the risk of
repeating what many may have already heard.
Pilot's Entry in DC-8 Log Book:
" Something in the tail cone  rattles"
Maintenance Remedy and Response:
"Something that rattles in the  cone -- tightened!!"
Cheers Roy McCormack.
(Thank you Roy for the information - eds)

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.

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.                 GREETINGS FROM                  .
.                Vancouver Island                 .
.              BEAUTIFUL B.C. CANADA              .
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Our crew is: Chief Pilot  - Vesta Stevenson
Chief Navigator  - Terry Baker

number 176      date July 15th 1997
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. Welcome to Tom Au Yeung who has been retired from Customer
Service Toronto for the last 3 1/2 years. Prior to Toronto,
Tom worked in the Facilities Branch in Montreal. Now living
in the Oakville area, working for ReMax Real Estate.
Tom, and his wife  Heather have 2 children ,  their daughter,
teaching English  in Japan, for the past 4 years,  while their
son   is about to finish  at Ryerson  Polytechnical  Institute
in Toronto as an Interior  Decorator Designer. Try their email
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Roy McCormack living in Collingwood, Ontario and
his email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Garnet Adamson out in Halifax with this email:
g/This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

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. Ken Roach sends us a biographical sketch of his career with Air
Canada follows:

"I was employed by Air Canada's C&SS/Information Services Branch
almost 27 years (based in YWG 66 - 73, YUL 73 - 79,  YWG 79 - 91,
YUL 91 93). As a Manager during the later half of my Air Canada
career which continued to be concentrated on computer systems
planning, development and implementation.  In carrying out these
responsibilities and on projects I worked with and for many
internal customers including the Finance, Cargo, Flight Operations,
In-Flight Services, enRoute Card, Human Resources, and Market
(Aeroplan) Branches."
"Although I have retired from Air Canada, I haven't retired from
the work world yet.  And, my new full time consulting career has
me traveling quite a bit, on Air Canada of course (earning
Aeroplan's highest/Elite membership level), most of it to Ottawa.
Since August 1993 I have been living in Burnaby, British
Columbia."
Ken Roach

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. News from the Districts - Okanagan
Results of the second Annual Pionairs System Golf Tournament held
at Penticton  reported by Ed McConnell -

There were 59 Golfers (over 50% of last year's contestants) and
77 Dinner Participants at the 2nd Annual Golf Tournament held June
17-18 at Penticton, BC.
The Winners were:
Men's Low Gross ... Bob Marshall-YYF
2nd ... Stan Hunt-YVR
Men's Low Net ... Larry Rougeau-Westbank, BC
2nd ... Bill Lupuliak-YYC
3rd ... Cliff Dobson-YQR
Ladies Low Gross ... Maureen Marshall-YYF
2nd ... Bernice Horsman-YYF
Ladies Low Net ... Ollie Wawryk-YYF
2nd ... Verna Lupuliak-YYC
3rd ... Laura Innes-YYJ
Closest to Pin:
Men ... Herb Russell-YVR
Ladies ... Muriel Hunt-YVR
Draw-"Extravagant Wine Basket" ... Dave Fairweather-YVR
Draw-"Business Class Passes (2 of) via Cathy Pacific"
... Fred Lamont-YYC
Draw-"Florida Vacation (1 week) via Canadian Interline"
... Don Wiley-YUL
The event was deemed a success.

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On June 26th, Air Canada inaugurated its 38th route to the US
since the Open Skies Agreement with A319 servive from Montreal
to San Francisco.

The Air Canada 60th anniversary party for Montreal is now
scheduled for Aug 16th.

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. Found on the Internet.

NEW FUSELAGE PATCH -- RIVETERS NEED NOT APPLY:
Textron Systems announced last week that it's received FAA approval
for a skin patch made from boron epoxy and intended for fuselage
repairs on Lockheed L-1011 transports. We are unable to learn how
long the patch must be worn or whether a prescription will be
required.

DRUNK GERMAN DINGS GEORGIAN TUPOLEV:
Good thing this guy wasn't flying. A cargo transporter, allegedly
driven by a man with three times the legal limit of alcohol in his
blood, rammed into an Air Georgia plane minutes after it landed at
the Frankfurt airport last week.

United and Delta may hire more than 800 pilots by the end of 1997.

Colorado Springs (USA) based Western Pacific and Denver (USA) based
Frontier Airline have reached an agreement for Western Pacific to
buy all shares and assets of Frontier Airlines.

Those Constellations!
At the Auburn Airport in Maine, there are two Connies sitting off
the runway on a private site.
They are very visible, but visitors are asked not to trespass onto
the owner's property.  A sign indicates that these are the last
three Constellations in operable condition in the world.  Two were
being worked on, the third Constellation, is rumoured to be up
north at present.  Two are ex-TWA, one is ex-Lufthansa.
The two appeared to be in good shape, but devoid of airline
markings and rudders.
Other reported Connies are -
the Mats Connie VC-121 in Avra Valley,Az,
the  2 connies in Camarillo, Ca, a C-121 & EC-121,
the Planes of Fame Connie in Vally, Az,
The Save a Connie in Kansas.
Don't forget Australia has a Super Connie too!!!!!

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. Remember the Bristol Britannia?

Did you live near (ex RAF) Kemble Airfield in the UK?
Do you have aircraft maintenance skills or even just a real urge to
work on these old Ladys. Well we have one complete Britannia G-ANCF
plus the front section of G-ALRX the 2nd prototype which crashed in
the River Severn.
We are also involved in bring the last Airworthy Britannia back to
the UK from Africa in August '97. We run the Britannia Aircraft
Society, which you can join to get a private viewing of the Brit
when it returns to the UK.
Email Steve Lewis  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.  if interested.


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. Interline stuff.

Due to construction at Dorval International Airport, travellers
to the US are required to check-in 90 minutes ahead of scheduled
departure.

Don't forget the terrific Interline Panama Canal deal, hosted
by Fraser and Joan Muir - ex National Director of Pionairs.
Departing Sept 22nd on the Crown Princess from Vancouver and
18 days later arriving at Ft. Lauderdale calling at Los Angeles,
Cabo San Lucas, Acapulco, Huatulco, Costa Rica, San Blas Islands,
Cartageba/Columbia, Aruba and then 7 days at the Vacation Resort
at Bonaventure in Ft. Lauderdale. Resort facilities has a pool,
hot-tub in all units with a lake, golf, tennis, horseback riding,
spa, auto rental, and resturant near by. Each unit has air
conditioning, microwave oven. 1 bedroom units have 2 tv's,
either full or partial kitchens, max 4 persons. 2 bedroom units
have 4 tv's, full kitchen with dishwasher, VCR and whirlpool tub.
Laundry facilities on each floor.
This deal is from US$1299 pp dbl, and includes a space available
pass on Air Canada.
Call 1-800-665-3100 for further details.

While you are checking up on the above deal, why not enquire
about the Interlining plus VISA credit card with no annual fee.
The only VISA card that allows you to earn FREE Interline Travel
The cash reward program lets you earn and redeem points on any
type of Interlining. You will earn points every time you use the
card for grocery shopping, dining out etc anywhere you normally
use your present credit card.
Eligibility restricted to Airline employees, retirees, spouses,
widows and parents.  

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. Smilie.

Vesta sends us this chuckle -

As pilots for a large airline, we often invite passengers to the
cockpit during a flight and answer questions about our jobs and
the planes we fly. During one visit a six-year-old passenger
wanted to know how long it took to learn to fly the aircraft we
were in. My colleague embarked on a fairly lengthy and detailed
account of the time and work required for ground school, simulator
and flight training. He finally summed up by saying that all this
work, study and testing could take three months for each new type
of plane we learned to fly. "Three months, huh?" our guest
repeated. Gee, kindergarten took a whole year!"

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.  That's it for this time, please we need your input, send
comments and email addresses of any others who may be
interested to Vesta with a copy to Terry.

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