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( For retirees of the new Air Canada family)
Number 619 Sept 5th, 2001, We first Published in October 1995
Chief Pilot - Vesta Stevenson - Co-pilot - Terry Baker
To get in touch with either editor/pilot our email address is
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The Co-pilot is going for simulator training(G) next two weeks and the Chief
Pilot will be on the flight Deck by herself.
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. Need to know.
Employee Travel reminds us that -
To be aware that if the plans of partner travellers change, they should
call the Air Canada Call Centre and NOT the Employee Call Centre. They will
need to quote the PNR (Passenger Name Record) locator number when they call.
From the desk of Diane Carignan - editor of Horizons -
Future Shop Friends and Family Event September 9-10. Aeroplan(r)
partner, Future Shop, is hosting another Friends and Family
Event. Active and retired Air Canada and Air Canada Regional
employees and their guests can take advantage of a variety of
unadvertised discounts on various products, plus a 'Scan and
Save' discount of 15-30 per cent on all clearance merchandise.
Visitors to the stores will receive a flyer listing all
applicable discounts. The event takes place September 9 from
5:00-9:00 pm at all Future Shop stores in Ontario and Western
Canada, excluding Manitoba, and September 10 from 5:00-9:00 pm at
all Future Shop locations in Manitoba, Quebec, and Atlantic
Canada. This offer will not be advertised to the public and an
invitation isn't required. Be sure to mark your calendars and
come on out!
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. The story we ran in previous NetLetters re the Queen's Flight brings this
memory back to Monty Montgomery -
The Jim Foy story………..
Re the Queen’s flight……I was working in the admin building in the radio
department. Flt ops was down at the end of the hall on the 3 rd floor.
During
the past few years I had been doing some photography for Capt. G Lloyd ---
retirements etc. Jim showed up at the radio room and asked if I would do some
ID photos of him for the Queen’s flight.. No problem when do you need
them? Yesterday Problem ! ! However my equipment was always with me so I
lined him up with a decent background shot 5 or 6 pictures when I got home
after my shift developed the pictures - printed the best on for his ID -
took
them back to the airport and left them on Jim’s desk. Well I never saw Jim
again but, for those who knew Jim he left a parcel for me - a bottle CHIVAS
REGAL. Unfortunately Jim passed on before I opened the bottle or even thank
him . That bottle is still unopened waiting for the right occasion. He
was a great guy. Monty Montgomery
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. Gimli Glider 767 pilot says training lacking
The Globe and Mail (A8 - Tue 28 Aug 2001) John Saunders
found by Brian Dunn who isues YYZNEWS -
Robert Pearson, who earned a place in aviation history 18 years ago as
the captain of the Gimli Glider, laments that airline pilots are still
left without the training and data they need if they they have to try
to land with all engines dead.
"I certainly didn't have any training, so I had to improvise, and what
a hell of time to improvise," he said, recalling the sunny summer
Saturday in 1983 when fuel-warning lights started to flash in the
cockpit of his Air Canada Boeing 767 over Northwestern Ontario. He
landed on an abandoned airstrip in Gimli, Man., hence the plane's
nickname.
Speaking from his Prince Edward Island summer place last night, he
said pilots such as those who glided an Air Transat Airbus 330 to
safety in the Azores last week still have to fly by the seat of their
pants. What they need to know is the best speed to extend the glide,
he said.
"It would have been nice if somebody had provided a chart that they
could have looked up and said, 'Okay, we weigh 350,000 pounds, we're
at 30,000 feet, so our optimum glide speed is 275 nautical miles per
hour,' because you're just guessing.
"Those guys were guessing. I was guessing, and the next time it
happens, I guess pilots will still be guessing, because the
manufacturers are reluctant to come out with it and the airlines are
reluctant to have it in their manuals -- that's my guess -- charts
that show what happens when all engines fail.
"But with a second one happening with a Canadian airline, maybe it'll
jog somebody."
Captain Pearson, who went on to fly jumbo jets before retiring in
1995, was responsible for 69 lives on the fateful Flight 143, headed
for Edmonton from Montreal and Ottawa.
The fuel warnings began after the twin-engine plane passed Red Lake,
Ont., at 41,000 feet.
He decided to land at Winnipeg and was beginning to descend when one
of the engines quit, out of fuel. The second engine died.
"So at 28-five we were a glider. We must have been over the northeast
portion of Lake Winnipeg."
Fearing he would not reach Winnipeg, he headed for a former military
strip at Gimli, the scene of a drag-racing meet that weekend.
He saw the runway from six miles out at 5,000 feet and slowed the
plane by sideslipping crabwise to lose speed and altitude. He touched
down almost perfectly, but the nose wheel, lacking hydraulic pressure,
had not locked and the plane slid 3,000 feet on its nose. He saw two
boys on bicycles on the runway ahead.
"I can still see their faces; that's one of the images I still have
pretty clearly after 18 years.
They made it off, anyway. We stayed in the middle of the runway."
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. From the RAPCAN eMailNews issued by Duane Frerichs -
From: Phil Pawsey <
Subject: Incident Report
All you gents have received many instructions in your time but thought I
had to relate one that I received yesterday.
Picture a small pickup truck with me in the left seat, a friend in the
right and one Alan MacLeod in the jump seat (king cab).
We were approaching a strange busy intersection which Alan had directed me
into, and the traffic separation was being maintained in feet and not miles
like
all of you usually had. I made a very calm request by saying "Which way -
straight ahead?'.
The response from the jump seat (and to think he once worked in ATC) was
"Right"
Now what would you gents have done? I went straight ahead and then received
loud utterances from the jump seat saying I should have gone Right. We were
late arriving at destination.
PS. Smoke, please tell son Ken and suggest he be very alert when flying with
one Capt G A MacLeod in the 10A.
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. Remember when?
On May 2nd 1973, Wardair accepted their first Boeing 747. Invited guests
assembled
at the Everett Plant where they saw a short film on the development of the
Boeing 747,
followed by a tour of the assembly line. After lunch, the B747 was christened
"Phil Garratt" by Phil Garratt who was the retired chairman of the
de Havilland Aircraft of Canada Ltd. Registration number of the B747 was
CF-DJC which
was the same registration as the original small de Havilland Fox Moth with
which Max
Ward started in the aviation business in 1946. A vintage Fox Moth, identical
to Ward's original had been purchased and completely rebuilt by Wardair, and
was on display a short distance away from the B747. Its registration was
CF-DJD.
The B747 departed Everett, Washington airport on its inaugural flight for
Toronto under the command of Captain A.B.Freman, VP Flight Ops for Wardair.
Regarding the information on Windsor Airport in NetLetter nr 618, Bill Hinds
tells us -
"Unless my memory is fading
faster than I think, North Star and Vanguards never did service Windsor,
Ont. They did land as an alternate to YYZ due bad weather. DC3s serviced
Windsor until the introduction of the Viscount in 1954 and then DC9s in
1969."
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. Terry's travel tips.
Jack Morath in LHR tells us about a B&B in Stavely in the Lake Dstrict of
England, just outside the town of Kendal. Cost gbp17.00 per person includes a
full English breakfast. If travelling by train they will pick you up from the
nearby station. Hosts are Joan & Tony Porter, "Tarn House", 18 Danes Road,
Staveley nr Kendal, Cumbria, LA8 9PW and mention Air Canada.
Norling Stevens sends us this tip -
Subject: Off Shore Car Rentals
I noted in the last letter several references to car rentals.
Another place to look is kemwel.com I have rarely been able to beat their
prices.
Cheers, Norling (Steve)
World Airlines Clubs Association events -
Cyprus Interline Club are hosting the Aphrodite Tour Oct 14 - 19th cost is
cyp200 pp
DEADLINE is Sept 13th.
Argentine Interline club are hosting Buenos Aires Falls & Tango Oct 22 -
28th
cost is us$690 pp. DEADLINE is Sept 15th.
Planned for 2002 season is
Apr 17-20 Guanajuato Colonial hosted by Leon Inerline Club.
Apr 20-24 Whale watching & blossom Wine tour hosted bny Vancouver
Interline Club.
May 9-12 Jazz on the rock hosted by Stavenger Interline Club.
Jun 6 - 9 Jamaica Jump Up hosted by Jamaica Interline Club Deadline
Apr 15 us$425
Jun 20-24 WACA Foorball Tourney hosted by Hungary Interline
Oct 5-13 Romantic tour of the Aga hosted by Rein-Main Interline Club.
Oct 13-17 Aga in Budapest hosted by Hungary Inerline Club Deadline Aug 1st
cost us$670
Contact your local interline club for details of any of the above events
or
Bill O'Neil runs the Cherry Hill B & B, Nr Bridgetown in the Annapolis
Valley of Nova Scotia.
Bill offers 10% discount for Air Canada retirees. Check web site
cherryhill.ca or email
"Bill O'Neill" <
3 Weeks in Portugal
only $944
Departures: Nov. 3, 6, 10, 13, 17, 24 (only)
OPEN TO FRIENDS ON THEIR OWN
Includes:
-round trip air from Toronto
(just get your own way to Toronto - easy)
-all transfers
-breakfast & dinner daily (no drinks)
-all taxes (except air tax of about $49)
-accomodation:
Perola Apartments (south Portugal Province of Algarve - at Albufeira),
includes: near shopping, air conditioned, telephone, satellite tv, balcony
overlooks pool, kitchen: oven & toaster & coffeemaker, maid service, indoor &
outdoor pool, etc.
Usual terms & conditions apply,
including rates in USA $ & per person based upon two,
$315 less for no food.
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e-mail:
information: (204) 889-3885
fax: (204) 889-3885 reservations: (204) 889-3885 & (800) 414-8091
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. Smilie.
Found by your co-pilot in Horizons Sept 1977 -
Instructions to Hostesses (May 1930)
1. Warn passengers against throwing cigarettes and cigars out the
windows.
2. Keep the clock wound up in the passenger cabin.
3. Carry a railroad timetable in case the plane is grounded.
4. Keep an eye on passengers when they go to the toilet to be sure the
don't
mistakenly go out the emergency exit.
Sent by Paul deCourcy
Man and woman looking at a sheet of paper and the travel agent is saying
"No, it is a contest. If you can actually get an Air Canada operator on the
line, you win a trip to Paris or Spain.
From the journal Stitches. March 2001.
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