The NetLetter
For Air Canada Retirees
(Part of the ACFamily Network)
June 08, 2014 - Issue 1301
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Welcome to the NetLetter!
We welcome you to allow the NetLetter to be your platform, and opportunity, to relive your history while working for either TCA, AC, CPAir, CAIL, PWA, AirBC, Wardair, etal and share your experiences with us! 
Terry Baker and the NetLetter Team
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| Upcoming events - Compiled by Terry Baker |
 REMINDER - PIONAIRS SPRING/SUMMER LUNCHEON - UPPER ISLAND MID ISLAND PIONAIRS
Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2014
Time: Social - 11:30 - 12:30, Luncheon - 12:30 - 13:30
Location: Quality Inn (Bayside) Resort 240 Dogwood Street (off lower Hwy) Parksville, BC
Menu: Soup, Salad, Selection of Assorted Sandwiches Selection of Desserts, Coffee & Tea
No host bar
Cost: $20.00 per person
There will be Door Prizes and a 50/50 Draw.
Send your cheque to Marjorie Thorpe, 1769 Astra Road, Comox, B. C. V9M 4B6, payable to Air Canada Pionairs, should already been sent.
REMINDER - PIONAIRS VICTORIA AND AREA SPRING/SUMMER LUNCHEON
Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 Time: Social at 11:30 - 12:30 Luncheon 12:30 - 13:30.
Place: Gorge Vale Golf Club 1005 Craigflower Road Victoria BC
Menu: 3 Salads, Selection of assorted sandwiches Selection of Desserts, Coffee & Tea
No host bar
Cost: $20.00 per person.
There will be Door Prizes and a 50/50 Draw.
Send your cheque to Marjorie Thorpe, 1769 Astra Road, Comox, B. C. V9M 4B6, payable to Air Canada Pionairs, should already have been sent in.
As we had such fun at our last event, listening to members tells us about experiences they had during their airline careers, let's do it again. Bring us a funny/shocking or an accomplishment they are proud of during their time in the industry.
The Social Committee works hard to arrange these affairs and your support in attending
is greatly appreciated. See you there.
 Michael Judkins, in the UK sends this information -
ACRA ASCOT DAY- 17 June, 2014 details of Ascot day 17 June. ( group F)
Contact Rosemary
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Here are the details:
1) Face value tickets at £32.50 which get you into the grounds, a drink and bet;
2) Meet the ACRA party at the coach park to enjoy drinks and eats and meet the rest of the crowd, plus your £32.50 entry ticket - £41 for ACRA members and £51 for non members;
3) Pick up on coach from Radius Park plus all of number 2) £46 for ACRA members and £56 for non members.
Many thanks. Rosemary.
LONDON THAMES CRUISE: by the UK Pionairs
Our next event will be a river cruise from Westminster Pier in London to Tower Bridge Pier on Thursday, 24th July 2014. Our coach will depart from Radius Park at 6pm sharp and will take us to the Pier for a 7.50pm departure.
For information contact
Jack Morath
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Stuart Hyde
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2014 Pionair's National Golf Tournament
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| People finder - Compiled by Alan Rust |
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Susan Macdonald sends us this request -
I am a retired F/A that started her career in Toronto in 1965. I had a friend who was a ground handler at the time. A Scotsman, Alec Dunlop. I married and moved away and lost touch. I was wondering if anyone knew what happened to him. Thank you for any help.
Susan (Macdonald) Charles
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My name is Tom Wright A/C 98978 Retired in Nanaimo, B.C.
My wife Maureen and I are Pionair Members. I have lost contact with my cousin Capt Bernard W Brennan (Retired), and his son (my nephew), Capt John Brennan both long time employees with Air Canada.
My Cousin Bernie retired a while ago as a senior Captain on 747's, my last contact for him was somewhere in Grand Valley Ont. John, I believe, lives in the Toronto area somewhere, not sure if he is still flying.
Would appreciate any help.
Thanks,
Tom Wright
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Sadly, we have discovered that Mary Jo Bishop who we were looking for in NetLetter nr 1298 has passed away.
We had these two responses...
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 Dear Terry,
In response to your inquiry about our dear colleague Mary-Jo Bishop, you will no doubt receive many replies. My name is Eddi Palsgraaf, I worked with Mary-Jo as Customer Sales and Service Agent at Vancouver Intl. Airport. Sadly it is true, Mary-Jo and her fiancé were in a fatal car accident, both Mary-Jo and her fiancé did not survive, God in heaven spared her two children, only they survived the crash. It is with heavy hearts we still think of her fondly, just as recent as last week my husband Aubrey and I were talking again about how very sad it was. In fact both my husband and I worked at Air Canada and knew Mary-Jo. After Mary-Jo was divorced and was bringing up her children alone, she met a wonderful man, I believe his name was Stan, they planned to be married. Mary-Jo, her children and fiancé were starting on their vacation on a car trip when this horrific accident took place. We were all devastated at Air Canada. You mentioned she was a very sweet person and great to chat with, that was our Mary-Jo lovely brown twinkling eyes with the sweetest smile too. I cannot share any details of the fatal accident but I am sure others will contact you with more information.
Thank-you for remembering Mary-Jo, may she and Stan rest in peace always.
Sincerely
Aubrey and Eddi Palsgraaf
Nanaimo, B.C.
and from Jannet Tricarico...
Jannet Tricarico refers to NetLetter nr 1298 and shares this memory - I worked with Mary Jo Bishop, she was my partner in the Training Department... so very sadly she was killed together with her fiancé at a terrible car crash while on vacation on July 28, 1998. I was her close friend and gave the eulogy at her Service... she was survived by her then two very young children from her previous marriage. I still miss her. Jannet.
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| Star Alliance News |
 Turkish Airlines inaugurates its first flight to Boston, its 6th destination in the USA. Lufthansa economy passengers who reserve a specific seat at the time of booking will incur a €25 ($34.50) extra charge on long-haul flights from April 28. The new long-haul fees apply to booking classes W, S, T, L and K. For remaining booking classes, the economy class advanced seat reservation remains free of charge, the carrier said in a statement... The company had announced it would introduce an early reservation system for its short-haul flights last November. The carrier charges €10 on short-haul services, but passengers have to pay €20 to sit by an emergency exit, a fee that increases to €60 on long-haul flights. Lufthansa added that guests may choose preferred seats at no extra charge when checking in up to 23 hours before departure.
United plans the world's longest Boeing 787 non-stop routes. As use of the Boeing 787 expands rapidly, United is preparing to operate two of the world's longest 787 flights. United's Los Angeles-Melbourne flight, scheduled to begin service Oct. 26, 2014 would travel 7,927 miles, currently the longest planned route to be operated by the 787 family. The flight would operate six days a week. United's San Francisco-Chengdu flight, scheduled to begin service June 9, 2014 would not only be the first non-stop flight ever from the U.S. to Chengdu, but also would be the longest 787 flight to operate non-stop in both directions, at least until the Melbourne flight begins. The route is 6,857 miles. The flight would operate three times a week, pending government approval. |
| Air Canada News |
 Air Canada to launch year-round non-stop service to Rio de Janeiro; new route from Toronto offers second non-stop destination in Brazil, beginning December 11, 2014. The service will be provided with a Boeing 767-300ER aircraft with 24 International Business Class and 187 Economy seats.
The year-round flights to Brazil's "Marvelous City" will complement Air Canada's existing daily non-stop service to Sao Paulo. |
| Air Canada News |
Air Canada to launch year-round non-stop service to Rio de Janeiro; new route from Toronto offers second non-stop destination in Brazil, beginning December 11, 2014. The service will be provided with a Boeing 767-300ER aircraft with 24 International Business Class and 187 Economy seats.
The year-round flights to Brazil's "Marvelous City" will complement Air Canada's existing daily non-stop service to Sao Paulo.
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| TCA/Air Canada People Gallery - Compiled by Terry Baker |
 Below we have musings from the "Between Ourselves" and "Horizons" magazine, Air Canada publications from years gone by, as well as various in-house publications. The NetLetter has been fortunate enough to have our readers donate vintage Trans-Canada Air Lines and Air Canada publications from as far back as 1941 to share with you. These have been scanned and are being prepared for presenting in a special area of the ACFamily Network for archival and genealogy research.
1946 - August 1st - Inaugural DC-3 service to Cleveland
1959 - March 1st - "Air Canada" is the new European Identity.
European identity of the Company is now officially "AIR CANADA". Due to the continued use, elsewhere on the system, of Trans-Canada Air Lines this identification will be retained in some form at all European offices. The existing crest will remain unaltered, with red letters TCA on a white maple leaf on a blue circular field.
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Issue dated - March 1959
Some items gleaned from the "Between Ourselves" magazines.
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 Eleventh annual Windup of the Rod and Gun Club, Winnipeg. held at the Assiniboine Hotel Marcg 1959. In the photo from the left back row: R.Summerly, Ken Cook, Don McConnell, Mike Zokor, Ernie Copper, Don Stewart, Bob Johnston. Front row: Walter Martin, Joe Sagal, Ton Watkins, Jack Motyer, Fred Brooks, Ben Leah,. President of the Rod and Gun Club.
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 During early 1959, at the suggestion by George Wilkinson, a Passenger Relations Representative, new white cotton blouses were being supplied and being worn by the young ladies of the District Sales and the Reservations offices in Toronto. Here is a photo of 10 secretaries ready to take dictation from Ed Waud District Sales Office Manager, Toronto. The situation was only temporary though to show the new outfits. white blouses and navy skirts, the young ladies in the District Office are wearing. The new dress Is a big hit with the girls. From the left: Pat Collins. Jackie Warren, Lorraine Hartwick, Karhy Parkinson, Lena Paolucci, June Clelford, Marlene Leigh, June Nicklas, Shelagh Valentine and Viola Misetich.
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 A NEW AGREEMENT between the Company and approximately 60 ramp personnel in the United States was signed. Negotiations with District 100 of the IAM were held in New York and Montreal, and the agreement was effective from January 1, 1959 to December 31st, 1959. Negotiators are, from the left, front row: R. L. Cowan. Station Manager, New York: F. C. Eyre, Assistant Director, Industrial Relations; J. B. Wilhelm, General Chairman, District 100 and F. Brosan, IAM. Back row: S. G. Sheldrake, Personnel Assistant; G. A. Fox, Station Manager, Cleveland; L. E. Taplin, Station Services Supervisor; and Committee* men G. L. Franks. D. R. Seman and R. J. Gurrieri of the International Association of Machinists.
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| Alan's Space - by Alan Rust |
German Sunbather has close call
As you can see in the video below a sunbather in Germany had a very close call when a small aircraft came in a bit short of the runway and practically landed on him. Not a good idea to sunbathe on the approach of an active runway, getting hit by an airplane is worse than a sunburn!
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| Small plane almost lands on sunbather |
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Canadi>n/CP Air/PWA, Wardair, etc. People & Events
- Compiled by Terry Baker
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 News and articles from days gone by gleaned from various publications from C.A.I.L. and its "ancestry" of contributing airlines. |
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Issue dated - November 1963
Items from the "Canadian Pacific Airlines NEWSLETTER" magazine -
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 Recognition of 15 years with CPA was given six employees at second annual service award dance at Vancouver on Nov. 8th 1963. From left: Gerry Robertson, mtce. mech. Britannia captain Jack Wells, Executive Vice-President J.C.Gilmer, who made presentations, Miss Elsie Muren, mtce. dept., Tom Kelly upholstery shop, Norval Norton, legal dept. and DC-8 second officer Alf Bicknell. Some 500 people attended the dance and presentation.
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Issue dated - June 1985
Items from the "PWA Flightlines" magazine -
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 In this photo (Left to right) Flight Attendant Marian Leschiutta, First Officer Ian Matthews and Flight Attendant Diane Matthews just prior to giving an aviation careers presentation at Archbishop MacDonald High School In Edmonton. During Education month in Alberta.
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 Pictured here are Dennis Christiansen and AI Hunger from Vancouver Maintenance, manning the Pacific Western booth at the 1985 Aircraft Maintenance Symposium.
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| Reader's Feedback - Compiled by Terry Baker |
Every week we ask our readers for their stories or feedback on what they have read here in previous issues. Below is the feedback we have received recently. Roddy Brodie sends us this - I'm sure the NetLetter is aware of AC's outsourcing plans at LHR that the AC Horizons Daily newsletter reported in January. The departments mentioned will be transferred on 1st May 2014 from Air Canada to ASIG. It's been a sad week for us all at Heathrow, with many employees departing for good, and many transferring their employment to ASIG, but hopefully the NetLetter will have lots of new subscribers! Regards, Roddy Brodie (ex PIK and now ex LHR, as of 30th April...)
Carl Vetter has sent us this suggestion after reading the trials and tribulations on stowing carry-on luggage mentioned in NetLetter nr 1299 under " Terry's Trivia" - just want to make a suggestion about the carry on luggage. On a flight to Phoenix, as I was trying to get the overhead bin to close on my hard side carry on with no success, the flight attendant came along and told me to reverse the bag and have the wheels facing inward. Lo and behold, the bin door was able to close without having to have the bag take up more space by having it sideways. Carl Vetter, YKA
Jim Douglas has sent us this information regarding the identification of the three Instrument shop employees in NetLetter nr 1299. - You're almost there with the names. The people in the instrument photo is I believe Austin Sheehan, Joe Lemieux, and Ralph Pilling. Jim Douglas YVR Pionairs District Membership Director
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In NetLetter nr 1298 we had a photo of the CPA Rome staff, unfortunately the accompanying names with the original article left out two people in the front. Richard Webb sent us this information - The missing names from the NetLetter 1298 - CP Air Rome Staff is Maria Carla del Bue and Giorgio Foresta. Cheers Richard Webb Airports Manager Italy 1979 - 1983 |
Max Lindeman sent us these comments after he had read the article in the NetLetter nr 1296 regarding the CPA Britannia aircraft
- I was a structures technician with CPA at that time. These aircraft were nice to fly in but a nightmare to maintain. They were so maintenance intensive that after a year the company realized that the people that were laid off (because they figured new aircraft wouldn't require as many personnel) had to be called back. Plus new people had to be hired to keep these pieces of "GARBAGE" in the air. I have been in aviation for 44 years, and they were the most structural maintenance intensive aircraft I have ever worked on.
Max Lindeman,
Structures support specialist
Robert Arnold has sent us this observation - I note at the beginning of NetLetter nr 1297, in the Between Ourselves section, you have 2 photos of Pat Marini. In the second photo you have her "On the Job", and you mention "Here we have Pat working in the galley of a TCA aircraft". Well I can say with complete certainty she is pouring coffee or tea in the galley of Viscount Fleet number 644, CF-THZ. This aircraft was delivered to Trans-Canada Air Lines on May 15, 1958. If you look closely, you can see numbers "644" stenciled on the Flight Attendant's overhead panel which is located in the galley of the aircraft.
Regards,
Robert
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 Ken Pickford has sent us this correction for the information in NetLetter nr 1298
Re the early Vancouver Airport photo with the United Airlines aircraft. As mentioned in the accompanying text, they started service in 1934 using a Boeing 247.
The aircraft in the photo is a DC-3 which didn't make its first flight until December 17, 1935 and went into service in 1936. So the caption on the photo isn't correct as it can't be UA's inaugural flight to YVR. It probably dates from at least a couple of years later. UA took delivery of their first DC-3 in December 1936, and from looking at some old UA timetables on the web, they appear to have introduced the DC-3 on the Vancouver-Seattle route in 1938 or 1939.
That was UA's only international route for several decades.
Here's an undated photo of a United Boeing 247 at YVR from the City of Vancouver archives site:
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Odds and Ends.
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 Sometimes we receive articles and information that just doesn't fit in our other areas. This is where it goes!
Neil Taylor is looking for information.
I am looking for individuals from TCA who flew on or serviced any Vickers Vanguards belonging to TCA in the 1960s. I am the newsletter editor for the Alberta Aviation Museum in Edmonton and I would like to develop an article on the Vanguard based on the comments received.
Neil Taylor
Note: Please reply to this NetLetter if you can assist Neil Taylor. The NetLetter is happy to act as a messenger but never gives out anyone's email address or any other information without their permission.
The Western Canada Aviation Museum played host to: "Transport" on May 29 and 30th, 2014.
Performance artists Shawna Dempsey and Lorri Millan were on board the vintage Vickers Viscount passenger airliner as they spun a 70s tale laced with disco, salted peanuts and transcendence. Seating was limited to 37 as the play was held aboard the Vickers Viscount aircraft! First come, first served - did you miss out?
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These photos from Vancouver airport sent in by Doug Robinson.
 In 1949, Australian National Airways, Qantas predecessor, became the first scheduled overseas carrier to service Vancouver International Airport .
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 In the 1940's local companies, including Woodward's were early adapters of air cargo services out of Vancouver airport. Here we have a Trans-Canada Air Lines North Star aircraft.
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Betty Morgan
has asked for some help here - Does anyone remember the opening of the new airport in St. Lucia and the hotel that was incomplete where we all stayed? I am trying to remember the name of the MP who we accompanied on the small aircraft to the Island from Miami (?)
I know that my bag went back to Montreal and I found it a couple of years later. But I digress. If anyone could send me a list of the MP's when that airport opened - 1970 or 71- Does anyone remember that event?
Thank you - Betty Morgan
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 Tom Singfield sends us these details of his new book -
I am the co author of this new book "Wings over Bermuda - 100 years of aviation in the West Atlantic".
After 6 years of research and writing, this long-awaited volume has now been published and is available direct from the publisher in Bermuda.
As you can imagine, with such a strong tie between Canada and Bermuda over many years, the story has a great deal of Canadian aviation history, much of it gleaned from firsthand accounts by those that were there at the time.
As you can see from the attached précis, Canada has its own chapters and I am sure that your readers would be interested in the book.
Anyone interested in purchasing a copy is advised to contact the publishers - The National Museum of Bermuda. Orders can be made to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..
Cover price is US$60 but I do not know the P&P charges from Bermuda. Anyone wanting a signed copy can contact me at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. for details. Please feel free to ask me for any other information.
Best regards,
Tom Singfield
Horsham UK.
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Terry's Trivia and Travel Tips - by Terry Baker
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 The Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum will be flying their prized Avro Lancaster to England this August for a month long visit. The Lancaster will join the only other airworthy Lancaster in the world, owned and operated by the Royal Air Force's renowned Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (BBMF), and participate in several events and activities.
To see the full schedule, please click here.
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Now for something completely different -
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Built on vision and engineering these handcrafted spheres are suspended like pendants from a web of rope. They occupy a truly unique place in the world while providing a habitat for the un-tamed spirit that exists in us all.
Spheres, Eve, Eryn and Melody, are available for overnight rental. They are approximately 30km north of Parksville on Vancouver Island along the Inland Island Hwy (#19), near Qualicum Bay. The acreage is on private property close to Horne Lake Caves, Georgia Strait and Mount Washington. Go and experience an enchanted coastal rain forest.... your comfortable, gently swaying, restful sphere awaits.
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Frontier Airlines is now charging extra for carry on bags and advance seat assignments. Passengers flying Frontier Airlines will now have to pay extra to place carry-on bags in the overhead bin or for advance seat assignments.
Your chief pilot recently visited Honolulu for 14 days and each of us purchased a senior bus card, costing us$10.00 valid for five years and each calendar month it will cost us$5.00, this allows boarding any bus for free. The card is obtained from the bus station at Kalihi Transit Centre. Take either A,B,1,2,16,31,32 or 43 busroute.
We only needed photo id, and, after they retake a photo for the pass, they hand you the pass, after five minutes. Renewal of the monthly sticker is from the Satellite Council office next to Barnes & Noble in the Ala Moana shopping centre.
Yes, the public bus is an alternative transport to hiring a car. While the bus does not deliver me to a parking lot near my destination, but time was not a consideration when you are on vacation. Each day we took the bus, cost for an adult is us$2.50 each way, so, we used the bus each day for 14 days, the total cost would have been us$140.00, but we avoided the hassle of driving around unfamiliar roads and finding parking spots at a cost. On the bus you do meet an assortment of fellow travelers, both local and vacationers.
The experience of the attendant body odors and perfumes from strap hangers in a bus that is so overcrowded most times of the day is something not to be missed! Should the bus be involved in an accident, there is plenty of cushioning to help save you from injuries. We stayed in the Waikiki area and, each Friday, on the beach behind the Hilton, there was a ten minute firework display starting at dusk, and then most hotels have ongoing activities you can watch, for free, whilst on the way back to your own hotel.
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| Smileys - Compiled by Terry Baker |
As we surf the internet and back issues of airline magazines we regularly find airline related jokes and cartoons. Below is our latest discovery.
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CJ3 In Pond, Plane Hits Lawn Tractor
Three people aboard a Cessna CJ3 escaped injury but the same can't be said for the jet after it overran the runway at Spruce Creek aviation community near Daytona, FL on Saturday. It ended up in a golf course water hazard.
(Apart from the cost to retrieve the aircraft, that's a 2 stroke penalty isn't it?- eds)
An Air New Zealand DC-10 en route from Auckland to Honolulu was about to pass the southbound company flight in the early morning hours, and its crew was chatting with another flight on the inter-plane frequency.
In short order, a Qantas aircraft joined the conversation. A bit later, a USAF MAC aircraft called in as the fourth. ...
MAC: "Aahh, say, New Zealand 6: What type of aircraft are you?"...
NZ6 First Officer: "Stand by. I'll ask the flight engineer."... [After a suitable pause] ...
"Aahh, DC-10" ...
Deafening silence from the MAC.
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The NetLetter is an email newsletter published (usually) once a week and contains a mixture of nostalgia, current news and travel tips. We encourage our readers to submit their stories, photos and/or comments from either days gone by or from present day experiences and trips. If we think that the rest of our readers will enjoy it, we will publish it here.
We also welcome your feedback in regard to anything we post here. Many readers have commented with additional information, names and personal memories from the photos and articles presented here.
The NetLetter, which is free, is open to anyone that wishes to subscribe but is targeted to retired employees from Air Canada, Canadian Airlines and all the other companies that were part of what Air Canada is today. Thanks for joining us!
We hope you have enjoyed this issue of the NetLetter, see you next week!
Sincerely,
Your NetLetter Team
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Disclaimer: Please note, that neither the NetLetter or the ACFamily Network necessarily endorse any of the airline related or other "deals" that we provide for our readers. We would be interested in any feedback (good or bad) when using these companies though and will report the results here. We do not (normally) receive any compensation from any companies that we post in our newsletters. If we do receive a donation or other compensation, it will be indicated as a sponsored article or link.
E&OE - (errors and omissions excepted) - The historical information as well as any other information provided here is subject to correction and may have changed over time. We do publish corrections when they are brought to our attention.
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First published in October, 1995
- Chief Pilot - Terry Baker, Nanaimo, B.C.
- Co-pilot - Alan Rust, Surrey, B.C.
- Flight Engineer - Bill Rowsell, Londesboro, Ontario
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